What's the stance on Akali? Any plans to address her Yas level ban rate?

TheSingularity··2 votes·947 views

So Akali's been out for just over a month and probably had enough time to settle. And based on her ban rate it seems she's settled in the Yasuo pile.

Yasuo, infamous for his ban rate and how frustrating and tilting an experience many find facing him to be, finally has competition in the form of Akali. Her pickrate is generally less than half of that of yasuo yet her ban rate, depending on the site you use is almost on par or in some cases greater than his. Her winrate varies pretty wildly depending on site and elo. Sometimes sub 50%, however in a majority of cases between 60% and 70% in plat+, which are pretty obscene winrates generally only seen on dedicated one trick accounts.

> Really want to know what Riot thinks of Akali's performance, reception and the player experience when facing her. And what if any plans there are for her

But from my point of view she's blatantly annoying with no enjoyment to be had when facing. But she can easily be fixed without another rework to be a pretty fun assassin to face. And without gutting her like crazy.

Her annoyances are generally similar to those that people find irritating about yasuo:

  • Q: Spammable, practically resource less wave clear and sustain. With range to match the AA of most mid range mages.
  • W: A controversial tool that you can do nothing about, that gives this champion the ability to seemingly do what ever the hell they want.
  • E: A hyper mobility spell
  • R: An execution ultimate with little counterplay (a majority of yas ults are E+Q for point and click knock up into R)

Her W and E in my opinion are her biggest balance issues and frustration factors, which if solved would prevent any other changes being needed.

Her W gives her a tool that no one can really do anything about, that is also unparalleled in terms of power. The obvious mistake with this spell was: "causing all sources of True Sight icon true sight (including Towers Destroyed icon turrets) to grant obscured vision instead." With this one line, the spell has zero counterplay. I can't reveal her with spells, it's so vast that it's near impossible to guess where she is, familiars belonging to Annie Azir Ivern Maokai Zyra Yorick Heimerdinger can't do anything, and one can't reveal her under any circumstances. Because of this, the one limiting factor of her ult is negated due to its duration and it's so big that it can accommodate her passive as well. It's cooldown really isn't that long, it gives her energy instead of costing energy, and so is an easy panic "get out of jail free" card And so Akali is able to freely chill under tower and kill you when ever she pleases, and there's nothing you can do about it.

Remove that one line and this spell becomes balanced. She still gets the energy restore and the movement speed. AND! it has full power as long as she isn't tower diving. So the result would be she's highlighted by wards and sweeper (with that lovely red silhouette, and completely revealed by tower.

The only issue with E, is the infinite recast range. It essentially means I'm not getting away no matter what, if she lands this. Landing her E isn't overly difficult since you can easily force the opposition out of the safety of their minions via Q spam. It's unhealthy in a similar vein to Zoe's E. In that if you get hit you die, because of the guaranteed secondary function. Especially when she uses it against teleports

Throw a range limit on this thing so you can realistically get away and this spell becomes fine. There really isn't much more than you can do to this spell without turning it into trash.

What're your thoughts on akali? Is she on your ban list? Are your concerns with her completely different to mine? Would love to know

5 Comments

Paroe4 votes

Akali is balanced, and i guaran bloody tee that if we didnt know WHO made her, people would not have this ridiculous hatred towards her.

TheSingularity1 votes

A 58%+ winrate in plat+, with a just under 10% playrate (about average) and a 60-70% ban rate means she's balanced?

It wouldn't of mattered who made her. Her W would have received the same reception. I initially didn't know who made this champion until I saw her kit, the moment I saw her W I knew exactly who'd designed this champion. Would wind wall have been better recieved if meddler made it? What if morello made it? It wouldn't of mattered. People would still view it as a cheap spell with zero counterplay

Certainty didn't even enter my mind when typing this up, you made this about him. Personally I couldn't give a shit. He's done some good work, some bad work. Just like every other human being on this planet

Paroe2 votes

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A 58%+ winrate in high elo, with a just under 10% playrate (about average) and a 60-70% ban rate means she's balanced?

It wouldn't of mattered who made her. Her W would have received the same reception. I initially didn't know who made this champion until I saw her kit, the moment I saw her W I knew exactly who'd designed this champion. Would wind wall have been better recieved if meddler made it? What if morello made it? It wouldn't of mattered. People would still view it as a cheap spell with zero counterplay

Certainty didn't even enter my mind when typing this up, you made this about him. Personally I couldn't give a shit. He's done some good work, some bad work. Just like every other human being on this planet

Where are you getting 58%? https://lolalytics.com/ranked/worldwide/platinum/plus/champion/Akali/

Her win rates, at least on this site, are 47% - 50% with only the mains reaching about 60%. Her pick rate also doesnt reach 10% on this site, capping out at around 9% in gold and dropping to 3% or so in diamond.

Anyway, The hate for Akali is most certaintly a CT thing. Any other designer, maybe even Stashuu, and she wouldnt get the blind hatred she has.

TheSingularity1 votes

Where are you getting 58%?

Averaged out 4 sites, one had her with a sub 50% winrate so it could've been over 60% post caluclation (without that smaller number in there). Averaged because every site is wrong to a degree

Anyway, The hate for Akali is most certaintly a CT thing. Any other designer, maybe even Stashuu, and she wouldnt get the blind hatred she has.

So definitively, the community would've accepted her new W with open arms and celebrations if anyone else had designed her? There would statistically speaking, be f*ck all hate for her? Because I can tell you I most certainly wouldn't. Doesn't matter who designs something. Bad design is bad design.

ShadWooo2 votes

If Yasuo can stay with this high ban rate I don't see why Akali couldn't stay like that either. [slayer-jinx-wink]

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