Ivern PBE change feedback

TheSingularity·10/8/2019, 12:06:45 AM·97 votes·18,346 views

So Iverns current PBE changes grant him his boosted aa range even when out of bushes, however he still needs to enter them to get the damage steroid. This change is awesome however breaks allot of Iverns core Q interactions which I feel should be addressed. Since he's now pulled to his maximum aa range ivern can no longer jump over most jungle walls, slowing his clear down immensely. Getting his E slow off is extremely difficult since you're pulled beyond its explosion range. You're less likely to catch someone in a chase as they, by default are given more room to run away as there's a greater distance between u, where as in the past I could Q to you, dump a bush under me and wack you.

The solution is relatively simple in thought: Iverns Q interaction with himself is changed. He can right click it to obey it's usual rules or instead reactivate it if within range, pulling him into melee range. This will allow ivern to traverse the jungle, catch people and chase them down as he does currently. Or he can take the safe route and just right click them to remain at range.

I feel a change along these lines is essential to not destroy this champions core aspects that allow him to succeed.

Edit: The changes are live, time to see what the end result is. So the changes are half right and they fixed the most important problem, the jungle camp dash. The champion interaction has recieved a 1/4 change. If he reactivates his Q he is pulled slightly less than his AA range and if he simply right clicks he is pulled to max aa range. Personally I'll always be reactivating the spell and would love to see the champion specific aspect of my proposal thrown in

27 Comments

INoble KnightI10/8/2019, 12:21:40 AM16 votes

I like this idea.

I Like Teemo10/8/2019, 1:06:29 AM11 votes

10/10 idea

ff 20 please ty10/8/2019, 1:09:35 AM8 votes

agreed

SweedishGunner10/8/2019, 1:54:06 AM6 votes

Hey that's pretty good.

Me no support10/8/2019, 5:28:33 AM5 votes

I'm surprised Riot themselves haven't thought of that to be honest, did you consider applying for the balance team already?

Ahri Baka10/8/2019, 4:11:35 PM3 votes

A thread that is discussing a problem and providing a solution? What I mean thank you for the effort , threads like this actually make boards a better place

General Esdeath 10/9/2019, 2:32:29 AM2 votes

"We already changed him, come back in like 2 years and we'll try again"

CleverCactus10/8/2019, 2:05:49 PM2 votes

I thought they said they were doing this?

Hi im 1210/8/2019, 2:50:32 PM2 votes

making a champion ranged is a massive buff, its good that there's a downside to it.

Johnnysocko10/8/2019, 1:44:21 PM1 votes

well said Ivern

Makattack10/8/2019, 5:53:10 PM1 votes

You can tell the person who proposed these changes doesn't play Ivern at all, or else they would have thought of this. That's the issue with a lot of Riot's balancing decisions; it's uninformed.

The23rdGamer10/8/2019, 9:34:41 PM1 votes

Surprisingly great feedback!

Mac140010/8/2019, 11:59:44 PM1 votes

yeet

Saezio10/8/2019, 10:33:26 AM1 votes

What kind of idiot thought that was a change ivern needed|? He already has ample access to his ranged attacks... Who needed the permanent range? Seems like a noob change .

Does this mean KV is 50% effective on him now?