Ezs q

khorney··2 votes·521 views

So Ezs q needs to either count as a Aa or not. Not this in between crap ...... this would actually make him better in teamfights..... change it to a active similar to Kayle or kog.... for such a time all auto attacks gain increased damage or something....or something similar.... so what if I wanted to get runaans and rageblade on him.... tech yah sure he can use rageblade but meh.

24 Comments

Shadòw2 votes

it's an ability that procs on-hit effects.

it's fine liek it is

khorney1 votes

Doesn't work on turrets nor will work with rageblade. It's a worse version of Nasus q

BeatzBoyFTW1 votes

Still makes him one of the most popular ADC champions picked despite not being able to do those.

khorney1 votes

My point is my suggestion would actually make him stronger. But also why wouldn't you want it

BeatzBoyFTW3 votes

Cz he's already strong & obnoxious with his item 3025 item 3042 item 3153 builds, plus was one of the main problem why the AP jungle item kept getting nerfs & reworks.

And I also realized you're the guy who kept begging for mindless Varus buffs in all your previous threads. Stop promoting your brainless Guinsoo builds to EVERY adc champions already......

khorney1 votes

He was fine before and got nerfed. What he is the only adc I play and he was Kalista nerfed. He was in a good spot before nothing wrong with him then they nerfed fervor which made him weaker and they nerfed lethality which made his caster build useless.... and what did he get ..........nothing a useless "buff" who the fck cares about adding a little attached speed to a passive that's not reluable..... it's basically a zyra passive . Also Nasus can do it why can't ez?

BeatzBoyFTW1 votes

In the past, he was constantly destroying tons of AP jungle items, plus his ult was always up due to his Q lowering its cooldown, so the increase cooldown on his ult was worth it. Plus Fervor was already buffed where it would gain more AD with a longer duration, making his AA & Q hurt a little more than it previously does.

The Attack Speed passive is a lot useful than you think. It's thanks to that passive that gave Ezreal tons of breathing space to build item 3025 item 3042 item 3153 instead of the everyday item 3094 item 3031 item 3087 you see on every ADCs. For every spells casted on an enemy, he can be more aggressive with his AA without having to buy Attack Speed items himself.

Nasus & Ezreal are two completely different champions. Nasus is meant to stack his his Q farm to be able to splitpush, Ezreal is just meant to be a poke champion from the back, and implying his Q to be able to hit turrets is just overbuffing it. He's never meant to be a splitpusher. Also you're comparing an ADC to a Juggernaut(?).

khorney1 votes

those 3 items you had named ie statck and rapid fire, plus bserker greaves...... you wont notice varus passive.... its useless ohhhh. also why is it people build trifore and iceborn on ez.... it doesnt stack......

BeatzBoyFTW1 votes

Ezreal players are usually meant to build either one or the other. Probably they built both anyway to utilize both the slow passive & the Phage passive.

Adcs like MF's W, Lucian's double-shot passive, Ashe's Q, Jinx's Q & Draven's W also grants them bonus Attack Speed, so they're not an excuse to NOT buy the 3 attack speed items I mentioned. So technically speaking under their same logic, it's not useless.

Shadòw2 votes

because it's an ability and Nasus Q is a aa-buff.

It's a worse version of Nasus q

i don't remember Nasus Q having 1150 Range. would be a little bit OP to hit Towers from out of their Range wouldn't it?

and why would you buy Rageblade on Ezreal in the first place?

khorney1 votes

The stats it gives and if his q which is a ghetto aa that isn't a Aa but should proc ludens but it doesnt....... you know kass w is the strongest spell in the game.... and you'll get my point. Kass w procs ludens , spellblade ( triforce , Iceborn, and licht bane), rapid fire and static all at once..... you want to talk about 1 shotting squishy targets that's how you do it and I know you'll say get more ap .... why when static gives you on hit magic damage as well as rapid fire

Shadòw1 votes

because Ezreal Q applies on-hit effects, not spell effects.

Kassadins W is an Auto Attack buff, Ezreal Q is not.. how often do i need to repeat that?

there is that thing called Power Budged. you can't simply make ezreals Q work as an auto attack.. that would simply make him OP and broken.

also you can't simply compare Kassadin W to Ezreals Q because both are parts of different kits intended to do entirely different things.

and kassadins W being the strongest spell in the game? Are you high or sth? maybe it procs everything.. but you still have to go in Meele Range to proc it.

and are you really just asking why you would want to get AP on Kassidin instead of item 3087/item 3094 ?

dude, you are drunk.

khorney1 votes

The flat magic damage these 2 items gives you trumps the extra ap that you would gain . Do the math ? How much ap you would need in order to equal these 2 items? Also ludens sees little benefit. Kass has his ult to get in get out ? Sure I wish that had a longer range but what eves

Shadòw1 votes

item 3087 gives

+35% attack speed +5% movement speed +30% critical strike chance

all the stats but the Movementspeed are useless on Kassa.

the item costs 2600 Gold.

let's compare it to item 3157

it gives 70AP

Kassadin has a 70%AP Ratio on his base spells and a 20% Ratio on his Ult without stacks.

(70AP*70%*3)+(20%*70AP) = 161

That means that you deal 161 more Damage when you hit your enemy with your full combo and no Ult stacks.

Stattiks deals a maximum of 120 Damage to Champions, and that only on lvl18 as it starts on 50 Damage at lvl1.

And that is just the Damage Part, Zhonyas also gives Armor and a Active Kassadin can actually make use of.

Here you have the math.

khorney1 votes

Stattick gives 120 aoe damage by itself..... hour glass only gives 70 ap ....... hourglass would need well over 130 ap to equal the damage that Stathick gives

Shadòw1 votes

now i just think that you are trolling or missing out basic knowledge of the game.

khorney1 votes

I'm not ..... listen and do the math..... stattick gives you a flat magic damage the same as ludens...... yah I get it ludens gives you ap.. but take the ap hour glass gives you and do the math for the damage just off the ap damage it provides.that will not equal the flat magic damage that stattick gives..... are you following ?

Shadòw1 votes

i did the math already idiot..

Kassadin has a 70%AP Ratio on his base spells and a 20% Ratio on his Ult without stacks. (70%x70APx3)+(20%x70AP) = 161 That means that you deal 161 more Damage when you hit your enemy with your full combo and no Ult stacks.

Just read jesus.. 161 > 120

khorney1 votes

Your doing full combo. I was just talking about w there bud. So in turn it takes more then 2 spells to equal 1 item. How is that efficient.

Shadòw1 votes

Kassadin is an assassin.

you pretty much only use your W on all-ins against enemy champions.

and in such an All-In your whole combo deals more Damage.

the higher W Damage won't compensate for the missing Damage on Q, E and Ult

khorney1 votes

It actually does. Try it and tell me .

Shadòw1 votes

it doesn't.

i am not posting the math stuff again.

the W damage won't compensate.

All Skillzz1 votes

lol let ezreal Q work like an AA that can crit from 1200 range. you think vayne QQ is bad with her tumble crits. wait till you get hit by a Ezreal Q that crits you l0l. Ezreal for the most part is balanced. His W needs some work for AD while not changing it so his AP build is not hurt. Atm as ezreal all you have to do is rush item 3146 and by lvl 9 any squishy that gets even close to your flash E range will die.

More from Gameplay

More by khorney