Kassadan is weak

khorney·Sep 30, 2015·9 votes·920 views

This is another post about this champ after reading them and playing as him he is weak low damage,moves and okay ratios and I get it your supposed to combo his moves but they do not do alot of damage I can easily outdamage him as zilean seeing his q does way more damage and better ratio Kass has nothing going for him riot give him better ratios or something like the way cass works with her poison like hit something to do more damage and he is supposed to counter mages how though. When his damage is so low

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HauntSep 30, 20156 votes

Alright I'll give some comments on this, but before I say it, i have to say this in the nicest way possible: Please use some punctuation, that hurt me to read.

Now onto the real post. Kassadin is on the weak side, yes. He's not "just ok" late game, in fact, I'm really close to saying he's a hyper carry, but it's just getting to that point. The problem with Kassadin is that it takes far too long to snowball. You get killed by Fizz in lane once, you're gonna get killed a number of times after guaranteed. Kassadin first blooded you? Eh, it doesn't really matter unless he gets like 3 or 4 more kills anyways. He plays different from all of the other assassins, he goes into small skirmishes/fights, and pokes them and leaves until he has enough damage for an all in.

The number one mistake on Kassadin, unless you're going an armor mana build, is getting a tear. Don't do that. It delays your damage by WAY too long.

That being said, I've played Kassadin a lot, I've done well as him more than I have not. Do I think he's good? Sort of, but not really. Do I think he's terrible? Not terrible, but he's lower down. He could use a LITTLE bit or something, but when I say a little, I mean a little. He is on the edge of being a very annoying and solid pick if they raise his numbers a little too high. That ult buff was a LOT better than some people are making it out to be. Trust me, it's good.

By the way, don't underestimate his W. It's an amazing skill and does a ton vs melees early game if you can auto reset with it.

insaiyanbaccaSep 30, 20151 votes

i have a questions, what is your preferred build on kass?

HauntSep 30, 20151 votes

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i have a questions, what is your preferred build on kass?

I generally go RoA into Luden's with boots in between. If I'm just getting incredibly fed, I'll get a Dcap instead of Ludens. Which ever of the 2 I don't get, I get next UNLESS I need a Zhonyas.

After that point it's whatever the game calls for. Lich bane is a godly item on him with his W, that shit HURTS mid/late game.

insaiyanbaccaSep 30, 20151 votes

k good to know ive been wanting to get into kass for a while now and with his new skin coming soon just gives me more reason

khorneySep 30, 20151 votes

Sorry I'm on my phone. His passive w is okay, it would be better if the damage or the ratio increased that being said it takes him way to long to get fed and even then you have to be picky which is why I'm going to ruin him ad I think he would drop better that way

CelebrimborrSep 30, 20152 votes

We hear you at riot headquarters and we listen so we decided to give him a skin.

lit ChickiNSep 30, 20152 votes

Didn't you mean.. Kappadin?

DemaciaClownSep 30, 20152 votes

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Didn't you mean.. Kappadin?

http://i.gyazo.com/6f04613d3bc98d37dd860928e6e4b1dc.jpg

lit ChickiNSep 30, 20151 votes

HAHAHA

I laughed for a while :D

9Q1IMGTQP3Sep 30, 20151 votes

Honestly, the last thing we need is Kassadin seeing more play and he already DOES get picked in the competitive scene albeit there is a difference between that and soloq. Apart from that, the meta just doesnt favor him right now (especially not on toplane).

On the matter of Kassadin-vs-mages, Kassadin does counter mages but he is a horrible champion to lane as and that is intended. After level 6 things get a lot better and especially from level 11 onwards Kassadin can dumpster most mages. A big problem for Kassadin (or for the average player) is "Why would you pick Kassadin?" if you can just pick other champions, the trade off between horrible early game vs a strong lategame is not good enough.

I can only suggest to wait and see how the preseason changes go and how they impact the gameplay, the meta and Kassadin overall, if nothing changes (or things get worse for Kassadin) id say buffs would be warranted. In this scenario i'd hope that they dont buff his early game but just further more improve his mid to lategame. Having a really shitty early game sucks but its one of the key ingredients to gate his power.

Best wishes.

khorneySep 30, 20152 votes

But that would require him being a hyper carry. Which is typical for a hyper carry having a weak early game. In general his moves do little damage okay ratios. Even this late game you speak of is okay at best. His ratios needs to be at 100%, that would not make him op. 1 his moves have low damage and there cd are pretty high. I think you would have better success going ad bruiser with triforce then ap, but he is in a weak spot right now there isn't anything spectacular about with high cd low damage moves not good ratios, his passive w should go up in levels as well. It's not like you could run nashors tooth on him. I mean if his passive w got stronger damage then you could run ASAP builds on him but at it stands he is weak

xFrostKnightxSep 30, 20151 votes

What the bloody hell did I read? What have you been smoking?

He does not have a "Hyper carry" late game against mages as strong as you claim. (Insert Jackie chan "what?" Meme)

If I play a solo lane and I manage to deny an enemy farm and give then a shitty early game, they will not "come back" and beat me if their my counter.

This logic you apply to Kassadin is flawed. If he fails his early game, he isn't going to magically come back from his ability scaling a or base stats.

And what is this lvl6 and lvl11 bull? His ult is utility focused not CC or Damage. He isn't going to Nuke you the second he hits those levels.

Veigar/zed/Vayne hit lol 6 = power spike, and their dps gets out of hand.

Kassadin hits lol 6 = he becomes harder to finish off/ganks other lanes effectively.

You hope they don't buff him?? Gtfo, a rioter has already said they want to buff him and improve him overall.

magic poleSep 30, 20151 votes

nah, he just takes a looong time to turn on.

i think he's almost like a hypercarry and is also somewhat of a niche pick since he is a melee assassin with such poor lane phase. (zed for example, while being melee has a strong lane. he can poke/harass quite effectively, and has some of the easiest farming/safest lane of most champions. he also has great 1v1 power, early-mid and mid game)...

kassadin is somewhat the opposite. his early game is abysmal, his mid game is also quite poor unless you're snowballing, but his late game assassinations/mobility are god-tier. the caveat is that you have to make it to late game without giving up too many advantages. if you went at least even, he will shine late game. if you are somewhat behind, it will be difficult. IDK though, his E is an incredibly powerful ability. AoE massive nuke that slows....yeah....

idk I've played him a bit recently and didn't think he is so weak. His lane is absolutely weak yes. But, if you don't die, he can really start to get big. a gank or a good roam can do wonders for him.

all in all, i like where he's at. He definitely has a high skill floor. if used to his potential, however, he is quite an amazing champion. just very tricky to take advantage of his strengths.

and by niche i mean...he will struggle greatly against tanky teams. If the enemy team is squishy / tankiest members are fighters, he has amazing potential. i wouldn't pick him every game by any means. Also, I believe he is quite a good counter to Leblanc

khorneySep 30, 20151 votes

He is weak. And no he is no hyper carry. I just went ad with him and he is way better Inman your really relying on your w proc but hey I liked it better and either way you have to have 40% cd end of story.

magic poleOct 1, 20151 votes

nah, you don't need cdr if you kill a carry in 1 spell rotation...besides ionian boots, reaching cdr cap without scaling cdr runes leads to a weaker build. then you'd have to grab grail or morellos, and he really doesn't need the mana regen since he has his W.

he's not weak lol. if you utilized his kit correctly you would not say that.