boosted gold/plat is bronze 2.0

khorney·Jun 29, 2016·12 votes·1,338 views

so I just made gold 5 and I swear the gold/ plat players ive played with are worse then most of the bronze or silver players ive played with(I say plat only cause my mmr was like 1800)I mean chasing turret diving ignoring object missing easy asss skillshots, more raging, more negative attitude , more rage quitting, a lot more bad plays, I sup 99% of the time and pretty much 99% of the adcs ive played with are trash and just want me to do every thing..... then just rage because they got caught nonstop. Riot for reals I am conviniced that there is a vast majority of people in gold or low plat that got boosted.

21 Comments

Sightless66Jun 29, 20164 votes

That's nothing new. It has literally always been like this. Doing dumb shit is the standard for gold, and has been for as long as I've been playing. Gold players never stopped doing that same stupid shit that bronze players did. The only thing that changes in gold is that it is more likely that the enemy will see that you did something stupid and hurt you instead of letting you get away with it like a bronze player will.

Same pretty much goes for platinum, especially when it comes to rage. Platinum is hands down the ragiest league. Everyone there is so salty that they haven't made diamond yet. People get MAAAAAAD in plat.

This isn't anything to do with boosting. This is just League of Legends.

khorneyJun 29, 20161 votes

maybe but for reals gold or plat players can talk shyt how crappy bronze players I swear they are far worse ive played with more bronze and silver playres that were way way better hten I have with gold playerts lol its funny

iisabrinaJun 29, 20161 votes

I made a post complaining about this partially.

The bad players come in waves in gold, and since they are gold and plat, many people will work extra hard to carry these people and win the game. I am being paired with high plats and former diamonds (against them, not on my team), in my ranked matches. People like this know how to carry games and they will give others freelo. So many times gold players get lucky and get carried game after game.

khorneyJun 29, 20163 votes

ikr. I just made gold I'm like these gusy are trash ive played with better players in bronze and silver, hence why my match history isn't so good now is because of the trash players in this elo. I'm thinking as I'm playing and am like wtf is this dude doing why are they chasing so much and not getting object why turret dive die and be greedy bronze players don't do that shyt greed is never the answer.

iisabrinaJun 29, 20161 votes

I dont have a solid answer for why, I agree with you boosting and dynamic que. Most boosted players will boost to rank 5 of that elo. Just to say Im a gold player or I am a plat player.

khorneyJun 29, 20161 votes

like this past game I lost vayen gets caught out every time by lkeo , teemo builds runaans rand omen and frozen mallet...... like wtf

HyperiönJun 29, 20161 votes

I made it gold 5 so fast climbing up the ranks, and ran into the same thing you did. Except I kept playing over days, win 1 here and there, and lose, and now i am back in silver 1 because of it. People are worse there than what I had climbing up silver. So since then I logged into my first account I made, and am now playing with plats and diamonds all the time in norms xD (need to play more on second account to get the newer champions)

Ruin LanceJun 29, 20161 votes

that's pretty sad if you have to get boosted to gold lol.

however i can assure you that the majority of people in gold/plat are not boosted. gold is not even that good and honestly just a glorified silver. no offense to the people in gold.

people are really just that bad and you have to accept that dude.

also i very highly doubt that you get plats in your games because you have a very low mmr

EndlessSorcererJun 29, 20161 votes

Unfortunately, Platinum isn't that great either. I'm pretty sure the Gold 1 to Platinum 4 MMR range is the most toxic I have experienced; it is by far the highest concentration of trolls and intentional feeders I've come across and some people still lack basic game knowledge and decision-making.

Honestly, everyone who plays the game sucks to some degree and there will be toxic players at all levels. Players just get a little more competent as your rank increases.

khorneyJun 29, 20161 votes

man ive played with players that were in bronze that were a lot better

Ruin LanceJun 29, 20161 votes

i had a lot of people afk from gold 1-plat 5 but that stopped quickly because i had a diamond 5 mmr from plat 4 to plat 2. but trust me i know but i was fortune enough to escape that elo in a couple days because when i didn't have an afk or an awful player i had great teammates (or at least not bad ones). the ones that were idiots though... oh my. this shen rushed a spirit visage vs a riven. people building full armor into full magic damage comps. fountain dive throws. that kind of thing.

there are always going to be toxic players though i agree. it makes no sense that someone would be less toxic if they were a higher rank. take tyler1 for example.

in the elo that i'm at, there are still pretty frequent toxic players but usually they don't go "WOW GG FF@20" when someone feeds they just nag them on for doing bad, probably due to the fact that they just want that LP and don't wanna lose it.

TL;DR i know that where you are at sucks but once you get higher into plat the number of trolls decreases dramatically.

EndlessSorcererJun 29, 20161 votes

Eh, last season I was playing with Platinum 2 players in my Platinum 5 promo series.

I know that it gets better and I've been there before; it's just kind of annoying in the mean-time.

I wasn't so much complaining as I was acknowledging that those players still exist even as you climb to higher ranks. It's annoying, but that's just how people are.

khorneyJun 29, 20161 votes

right now yes my mmr is bad but when I first made gold my mmr was 1800 so yes I was having plats in my game.

KING ATTILAJun 29, 20161 votes

Easy to believe since DQ made boosting so fucken easy!

MoarCowbell98Jun 29, 20161 votes

when you hit high gold/plat you have a new problem.

your problem shifts from bad players who are flat out terrible and make poor decisions/mechanics

....to like players who just start out really good and then quit immediately and troll/feed to open mid and end the game sooner. the 0/2 yasuo who then tilts off his ass and just feeds mid intentionally happens super often in plat. I'm not even joking. I remember i had to make a thread on Summoner School asking for advice on how to not get my teammates to quit after two deaths. higher elo has bigger problems than bad players imo. its just as frustrating, but in a different way. in low elo, people are bad and won't listen to you. in high elo they are good, but quit the moment things go slightly wrong and flame everyone.

Swiftstrike4Jun 29, 20161 votes

Approximately 30% of the players that play league are in Gold or higher. This was a bit lower at the start of the season (approximately 25%) and I think last season at this point the figure was also lower.

But, just that fact that 70% of the player base is in silver or bronze means that most players that achieve gold are either OK/Good at the game, play a lot, or/and are boosted.

I have moved a bit higher in gold lately and I have noticed several Gold Vs playing really bad. But they aren't playing atrociously bad, they just make a few mistakes that lead to huge deficits while laning. Better players are able to capitalize on those mistakes, whereas in Silver or Bronze they will not and games can remain even for a really long time. I also think, as someone stated earlier, that it could be that the strategies and tactics a player used to achieve Gold no longer works effectively in that Elo. I can get away with a lot more playing against Silver players in a normal than I can in a ranked game among my peers in terms of skill.

It could be that these Gold V players just need to adjust their strategies and they have yet to do so. I have had several friends achieve Gold and lose it. They didn't make the necessary adjustments to improve and float between high silver and low Gold. That may be where their skill is and the only reason they achieved gold was due to a hot streak.

I don't think the prevalence of boosted players can be that high if only 30% of the player base on NA can achieve Gold V or higher. I would expect this figure to be a lot higher otherwise (40 or 50%).

Unless your underlying assumption is that the people that play league well is actually very small and perhaps only half of those players are "true gold" players. I don't know what the ratios were of Gold or higher players were in previous seasons before 5, but i think at the end of the season it was at a pretty similar figure.

People also may be obtaining gold "easier" because of role selection. I may have achieved Gold III this season, but I probably can only ADC or Jungle at low Silver Level.

With new champion select, I frequently get my main role more often than last season. I received top probably around half of my games last season but the figure is much higher this season. It could be that several low gold players are "one-trick ponies" like myself. They play their main role well and play their secondary role only so-so. They could be getting their secondary role more often in games and simply just stink at it. Especially if their secondary role was support. As we all know, placing support as your secondary simply means you will get support. They may have decided to try to learn a new role because they were tired of getting support all the time. They may completely stink at that role.

I have had to support more often this season so I got better at it. But last season if I got support the bot lane would probably lose because I was terrible at it (I was better at mid).

This doesn't even account for those with second accounts that achieve gold and maybe their main is platinum or higher. My smurf account is Silver I and may reach gold by the end of the season. I never intended it to get this high and only created it so that I could play ranked with some of my friends without taking them into games with Gold players. They would simply get stomped.

I also think it a bit easier to move up with Riot giving you wins if you keep repeating the same promos, but I don't think that is a huge factor in being boosted.

There is not a dramatic difference between Silver II/I players and those that are Gold V/IV. The difference may be grinding, a bit of luck, and getting your main role several games in a row. The reality is that Riot made it a bit easier to achieve gold if someone plays a lot. The new champion select, the ability to get your main more often and not play roles you stink at, and the ability to queue with friends.

But if the percentages of those that achieve gold is comparable to last season (which it is pretty similar) there are fewer people that are boosted than one thinks.

khorneyJun 30, 20161 votes

here is the thing when I first reached gold 5 my mmr was 1800 so that was gold 1ish. Plus the ranks I was playing and looked them up before hand as well to confirm. they were flat out trash I'm like wtf are you doing???? why do you gusy all insist on diving turret and chasing nstead of getting object is beyond me and when I ask they are like learn how to play noob.... wtf ever dude take your boosted ass back to bronze, or another one is I get adcs who cant build right nor follow up sooooo

Swiftstrike4Jun 30, 20161 votes

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here is the thing when I first reached gold 5 my mmr was 1800 so that was gold 1ish. Plus the ranks I was playing and looked them up before hand as well to confirm. they were flat out trash I'm like wtf are you doing???? why do you gusy all insist on diving turret and chasing nstead of getting object is beyond me and when I ask they are like learn how to play noob.... wtf ever dude take your boosted ass back to bronze, or another one is I get adcs who cant build right nor follow up sooooo

Well you may just simply be significantly better than them. Just that simple. I see people in Gold V do dumb stuff all the time, but I wouldn't say they are boosted, they are simply closer to silver than Gold. I don't Gold players doing dumb stuff is a reflection of Gold players as a whole being boosted. I just think Gold is an Elo with a pretty broad spectrum of skill. Silver is even worse with players being ALL over the board. I think most Bronze players are noticeably worse than Silver players, but I don't think high silver players are noticeably worse than low Gold players.

Your MMR is pretty high though (plat level), so you will probably simply climb to play with players closer to your skill. You also player a position (support) that is difficult to climb with. Support mains are typically underranked. They have a harder time carrying a game if teammates makes mistakes. I would say most support mains are two sub-divisions underranked.

khorneyJun 30, 20161 votes

that's exactly why I started playing as zil, got sick of losing when I gave my team soooo many kills a piece. was bronze 5 then switched to zil and started winning a lot . what I have noticed is adcs wanting to get carried every game, as in they are like wtf do something , um zil or janna... okay I get it I can stub but dude stop getting caught out and your the adc you start making the plays and ill follow up. me making plays nonstop anfd you just so happening to follow up to get fed doesn't mean your good......

BakedLotionJun 30, 20161 votes

If you feed in lane, it's entirely your fault unless you get ganked by 3 people every 5 seconds. Your team mates have nothing to do with your laning phase.