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We all know Gangplank is strong, right?

Horrow··1 votes·520 views

Would it be too much to ask to do something about his Ult? Specifically the fact that its GLOBAL.

What does that mean? It means Gangplank can impact the outcome of any fight on the entire rift starting from Level 6. It can be a fight in mid lane, a fight in Bot lane, a fight at dragon, a fight at enemy wolf camp, literally anywhere. If there is a fight, Gangplank can remain in top lane, base, or where ever he wants to be and just ult on the fight occurring across the map.

This means he can further snowball himself against his own enemy laner who have no way of stopping Gangplank from doing this (If the fight he ults on results in his teammates winning, of course). So in addition to helping his other lanes, Gangplank is now gaining even more advantage against his opposing top laner. All because his ult is a global.

Perhaps it can toned down from a global ult? For example, at Rank 1, the range is that of a Tahm Kench Rank 1 ult. Then it grows larger in range at Rank 2, then a global range ultimate at rank 3. Or maybe make it an upgrade he has to purchase using his special income. If Gangplank wants his ultimate to be global, he'd have to buy it over one of the other upgrades at the start of the game.

Anyone else against or for this? I'd like to hear some ideas about this because so far it looks like Riot are only look at his barrels. While his barrels are strong, I feel that his ult is going under the radar and that the fact its a global ult even at Rank 1 is being underestimated.

14 Comments

luckmallory2 votes

Since his ult can be played around and it doesn't actually put him in the fight like TF or pantheon or Shen, I don't really have a problem with it

Horrow1 votes

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Since his ult can be played around and it doesn't actually put him in the fight like TF or pantheon or Shen, I don't really have a problem with it

How do you play around it?

luckmallory2 votes

You can move around it or out of it. Also him having that ultimate means he doesn't get an ultimate to dominate lane with like Darius or Garen or Fiora or Wukong. If he uses his ult across map he gives up his only way to fight his laner

Horrow1 votes

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You can move around it or out of it. Also him having that ultimate means he doesn't get an ultimate to dominate lane with like Darius or Garen or Fiora or Wukong. If he uses his ult across map he gives up his only way to fight his laner

That is not counter play. As stated before, there is no counter play to it. Its an instant cast that deploys a LARGE damaging AOE that also has a hefty slow attached to it. There is no delay. There is no warning. It just pops out of the blue and you're stuck in it unless the GP using it is drunk.

Also, what? Ulting another lane gives up his only way to fight his laner? What are you talking about? His Q and E are by far efficient with dealing with basically anyone in lane. He doesn't need to ult his lane opponent, he can perform just fine off of Q and E alone. That's why he can get away with ulting somewhere else on the map to gain assists or even KILLS, which in turns snowballs him in his lane. And the enemy laner can't do anything about it. GP just presses R and you have to hope your teammates survive what ever skirmish they're in while being bombarded by GP.

luckmallory2 votes

In league of mobility there are a million and 1 ways to get out of GP's ult.

Also it does like no damage, the annoying part is the slow not the damage.

He cannot take most laners with just Q and E. I would love to see him fight a garen, Darius, Fiora, Malphite, Gnar, Irelia, renekton, riven, or wukong without his ULTwhen they have theirs. Please tell me how that goes for you

Horrow1 votes

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In league of mobility there are a million and 1 ways to get out of GP's ult.

Also it does like no damage, the annoying part is the slow not the damage.

He cannot take most laners with just Q and E. I would love to see him fight a garen, Darius, Fiora, Malphite, Gnar, Irelia, renekton, riven, or wukong without his ULTwhen they have theirs. Please tell me how that goes for you

You do know Gangplank has been reworked right? Because the way you're speaking sounds like you don't realize he has been changed. He no longer has that buff on his E now. Its now a barrel which ignores a chunk of armor and does bonus damage in addition to what ever damage detonates it.

There's a reason Gangplank has been banned and picked nearly every game across ELOs. Its because he's immensely strong. Some even go as far as to say that he's broken, hence all the nerfs he's been getting recently.

Just because you don't understand how to play GP doesn't make him weak.

luckmallory1 votes

I obviously know he has been reworked. I main trynd and have faced reworked GP around 4 times now. Slaughter him every game. One of the easiest lanes there is.

Rabid Husky1 votes

ok, hi gp main here, your complaining about his ult then stay with your story. gp can be strong but hey crits super strong to if he gets bullied then its possible to come back but over all hell be forced to hug tower and wont have proper breathing room for barrels ya know the thing that makes him good now. yes his barrels are strong they basically give him a free last whisper if he uses them properly.

i don't see people complain when azir gets 3 of his spear men on you and takes out half your hp in the same time a gp barrel would hell it costs him less as well, but this post isn't about his barrels its about his global ult ya know the one that scales off ap that really only kills you when you have like 50 hp, lemme ask does it deal significant damage? not including deaths daughter and including fire at will no it really doesn't it helps but its not going to kill enemys that can fight however the stragglers who would lived that ignite with a sliver of hp yup dead as dust.

now the big thing is why is it global why hasn't been nurfed to local cast? simple hes not there same as soraka same as karthus globals they could be in base they could hide in that bush but none of them are there. tf pantheon and shen all join the fight thats why they nurfed em if any of them are fed its easy to get a kill or two cuz they were at base and now they're in the middle of a fight, gp isn't joining a fight from base without tp hope this helps and please if your gonna rage, rage at something that isn't there for assists

Boulderox2 votes

the problem with it is riot has gutted globals,Pantheon Nocturne specifically, the idea that they could impact a fight in such a manner was deemed unfair. Simularly to Gankplank ult, it allows you to shut down the enemy in many ways, dragon, baron, entire paths, and the all powerful slow that it has on it is too much for a global. I think it does need a limit. A top gank bottom with a giant MF E is too powerful for what it is, any slight advantage that is gained without counterplay is unfair, you cannot stop gankplank from ulting in ANOTHER LANE. I purpose gankplank having a channel that shows WHERE it will hit and prepare the enemy for it. Like a pantheon circle, or nocturnes DARKNESS prepairs you for the upcoming responses . Gankplanks ult shows the circle and instantly starts damaging, without any preparation or ability to think what to do until it is already upon you. ESPECIALLY when it is only a 2 min cooldown at max rank, meaning you can spam it a lot late game.

luckmallory3 votes

Funny how before his rework people said all over forums how trash his ult is and then after he gets reworked it is op all of the sudden lol

Shonjl1 votes

Why are you crying about it? You make it sound like his damage ult hits like a Syndra or Viegar Ult. There is no excuse you should get hit for more than half a single volley or at most 1 volley, which at most does a lovely 300-500 at max rank.

I swear some people cry for the dumbest things. His barrels are the ones that need tonning, not his damn ult that takes 5 steps to get out of.

3tyson1 votes

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Blade of Justic1 votes

I don't know what people are talking about.

I've never once won a lane as GP.

Shonjl1 votes

I dont know what you are complaininig his ult is sucha big deal. It deals pitiful damage unless you stand in the entire thing. Even if he cast it on the dead center of someone, they will take at most like 300ish damage and be out of the aoe. At most he is getting a possible assist once every minute or 2. Wooo.

It is your own or your teammates faults if they stood in the entire thing and died.

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