Ok, seriously, I am tired of this, can you gut Janna until you find a way to fix her?

DoktorKaiser·4/24/2018, 3:59:57 AM·30 votes·7,932 views

I can't believe that all my life I thought Lee was the RITO favorite, this fucking champion can be utterly annoying, braindead, 60% winrate monster and actually NEVER get properly nerfed. She literally makes trash players win fights vs great players but not by making super plays, not by positioning properly or flanking or anything related to strategy or even the slightest of brain usage. No, she presses all of her buttons and voila you win the game. But hey, at least in season 8 she can also halve my HP with a single W. Hell yeah !!!

49 Comments

hhaavviikk4/24/2018, 5:44:45 AM18 votes

so you nerf janna and now lulu gets picked every time instead of janna and nothing gets solved, gj

Tokogawaruf4/24/2018, 4:59:57 AM17 votes

But all the "Diamont" Support Mains would suddenly drop to Silver if you gut their best Champ.

3411235456524/24/2018, 4:50:52 AM17 votes

how would egirls get elo and buy skins then? also ADCs might actually die so ...

Faliandra4/24/2018, 2:45:18 PM9 votes

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She literally makes trash players win fights vs great players

lol, mate, janna is a multiplier...if your team is good,she will make them even better, but if theyre bad, theres only so much you can do. Janna is not a playmaker, and is absolutely helpless when your team is bad. There is a reason why Enchanter supps are bad for low elo and why most people pick mage supps/tanks in there (cos your team mates mostly just are so bad that not even janna can help them).

I agree that she is an absolute highly valuable asset to any decent team, but on the flipside, if theyre bad, then you cant magically make them win the game just cos youre janna. Your ult healing them up does nothing when your team mates cant right click/do a combo (=do actual dmg, KILL someone)....or even friggin run out of your ult and they still end up dying after you healed them up, shielded them and peeled with W/Q. Also 1 W does not even come close to taking off 50% health, but since it slows and people usually run away, it may sometimes give an opportunity to add some AAs. At the same time, if you engage her properly, shes so easy to kill.

Her ult is op? Well,you already know in champ select who youre up against. So focus her, or ignite her when she ults. You cant reach her? Well,then she positioned herself well.

Love how all these people whine about janna or lulu, but in comparison i see very few complaints about Alistar, Braum and Tahm. They have hard cc, tons of health AND do damage. At least you can kill Janna/Lulu. Not so much these tanks.

Besides its absolutely disgusting how every salty butthurt person here comes in with sexist remarks about "olololo boosted janna egirl supp".

Kai Guy4/24/2018, 8:02:04 AM8 votes

I was around when Jannas ulti would also slow enemys in an AOE after its casting. Good times.

Edit. For the record I don't think janna is as bad as OP says. I do think shes pretty easy to pick up and do well with and makes for a fairly strong generalist pick into anything which tends to reward win rates more then specialized champions. There's differentiators between good or bad janna shes mostly oppressive when a player has her down mechanically solid, yet I don't mind adding higher skill expression to her kit.

I'm also one of the few players who would be ok if riot decided to openly endorse that some champions are built to be easy to play and fall out of meta and in viability as you advanced the ladder. Huge part of leauges success has been how they made a Moba Accusable to wider players, its not a newbie friendly genera of games traditional. Some champions are clearly built to teach mechanics for a class, just embrace it and let them be inferior picks to other champions who require more skill to get their best cases. I really don't think every champion needs to be good at every tier of play, all of them should have 2-3 Elos they can do well in, all of them should have a place in some part of the game. People who OTP or just love a single champion likely not enjoy this and riot would likely lose a huge % of playerbase.

remakoro4/24/2018, 11:05:03 AM7 votes

Ban her if she is so OP.

I love those retarded cries about supports so much. BUT SHE IS! SHE IS~!!!! SHE IS THAAAAT! Like damn elementary school kids.

Imagine you have oneshotting Zed on enemy team. He goes in. kills someone, you are trying to kill him for that but some kind of support (janna for example) come along and prevents you from doing that allowing him to escape. Im pretty sure you are furious about that. Now imagine you have oneshotting Zed on enemy team. He goes in. kills someone. you are trying to kill him for that but some kind of damage dealer like zyra or brand or some kayn comes along and fuck ups your team oneshotting someone and turning it into 3 vs 2 situation in which they actually manage to kill even more people. Now almost everyone on your team is dead. Do you feel better now? It wasnt peel from Janne that prevented you from killing someone after all. You just got obliterated with good old damage. Does that sit better with you?

Son Foku4/24/2018, 2:04:07 PM6 votes

I’d rather Lulu gutted before Janna, that purple little shit is broke AF.

Killer of Night94/24/2018, 5:00:07 AM6 votes

At least before her damage rework she wouldn't deal all that damage. Idk but it seem that support deal 3x adc damage early game even it's suppose to be enchanter. This make no sense.

PowerSlave9934/24/2018, 10:23:25 AM5 votes

Janna Lulu every single game...

KlydeFrog4/24/2018, 3:16:53 PM4 votes

how is she op?

Z3Sleeper4/24/2018, 10:09:58 AM4 votes

But let’s atleast just take a moment to appreciate the fact that Lee Sin isn’t a dominating pick right now. Glad that trend is dead.

SnugglePuggle944/24/2018, 12:32:15 PM4 votes

I'm sorry but she's not as bad as you make her out to be, which is getting annoying because that is how Riot nerfs the crap out of someone that really didn't need it, or need the nerf bat that bad.

[slayer-jinx-unamused]

Looking at YOU people. Sheesh.

She's really easy to kill, and relies heavily on her team for her success. I have won more games playing against her than her in a game beating me, so that says something.

Witch of Babylon4/24/2018, 3:03:09 PM4 votes

It’s your fault not knowing how to play against her. git gud

ninjaroxas4/24/2018, 3:06:03 PM4 votes

People seem to forget that a supports job is to prevent you from killing their team.

Janna does have a sea level skill floor but you can tell the difference between a good one and a bad one, the problem being a bad janna still destroys people who refuse to play around the fact there is a janna on the other team. Which is most of the player base. Those players then go and cry about how they are being forced to change how they play

I still would be fine if they made her have a higher skill floor though.

NocturnalSheild4/24/2018, 11:14:32 AM3 votes

Kek. When nami has a higher winrate and almost as high play rate yet requires skill shots.

Its almost like enchanters dont have high winrates because they are broken but because adcs are broken and they excel at keeping them alive.

Snowman Arc4/24/2018, 12:21:54 PM3 votes

It's not as simple as you make it out to be. You still need to be good during all stages of the game, if you want to have success with her. From laning, to teamfighting. The "braindead" way of playing Janna means that you need to rely so much on your team, and that's not how Janna gets those high winrates.

Dasdi964/24/2018, 1:54:20 PM3 votes

They won't properly nerf her because they have to sell Janna skins for the huge $$$.

xXCairoKingXx4/24/2018, 11:24:03 AM2 votes

I used to hate Janna but she has a very weak lane phase and is very easy to kill. She is less annoying then lulu and nami early game.

Mewko4/24/2018, 1:50:46 PM2 votes

As an Ahri main (& Janna/Lulu), I must say I never felt so gifted (happy) to feed off them once they're caught. I couldn't agree more about Janna being cancerous and it's weird to think that even though I abuse these champions, I surely hate them as well. It feels like every ADC has self peel with sustain and dmg in itself, lastly it'll take them 1 fucking shield to be invincible.

Spacesuit Spiff4/24/2018, 8:04:53 AM2 votes

Give her the raka treatment. Shield value gutted unless she landed a Q recently.

Śhunpo4/24/2018, 9:46:48 AM1 votes

This is literally like the Mercy situation Overwatch had after her rework. Luckily Blizzard nerfed her so she needs half a brain to play now, so all those boosted e-girls and trash players have gone down to their real ranks ^_^

The moment Riot does that we'll see the same results.

Nymzo4/24/2018, 1:01:20 PM1 votes

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or flanking

I'm sorry but that made me laugh aloud.

Janna : Hey guys, I'm flanking the enemy team, fight!

Vayne : Gosu tryhard mode engage!

Janna ults them in the back.

Vayne proceeds to get jump on by point and click cc tank and an assassin since they were pushed into her.

Janna : Shit, Vayne I'll save you! item 3107 item 3190 item 3504 . She's too far away to use those on her and redemption misses vayne .

An ally has been slain.

Meanwhile, the enemy backline could easily reposition before shooting Janna down.

Janna : Allchat : GG bad teammates, report.

This why I love these boards sometimes, so many silly changes.

ValiantKiller4/24/2018, 5:07:20 AM1 votes

They can fix her by making a delay on the casting of her hurricane like how warwick fear work, not get auto cast but instead a delay before it casted so chasing her or anyone won't result into instance slow and knockup.