@Riot, Shaco

ReshiKillim··5 votes·417 views

The changes to Shaco simply don't meet the mark. The rework is cutting away multiple of Shaco's alternative playstyles entirely, while weakening his main ones. I can understand lowering his early game power, but the changes to Two-Shiv Poison are upsetting. It's cutting away multiple of Shaco's alternative playstyles entirely, while weakening his main ones.

If you really wanted to stop early-game abuse from Shaco, all you needed to do was change his lower level stealth duration and lower his early game crit damage bonus and possibly a little bit away from his earlier shiv levels. However, the current changes on the PBE are greatly increasing risk while lowering the reward, and is an overall major nerf until mid-late situations when the enemies are low HP.

The backstab and deceive changes, despite being a major nerf to safety and reliability, I can live with them. We don't need to be able to put boxes down without canceling the stealth duration, just put them on the same health scheme as other stealthed traps and you'll have already fixed a major frustration with them.

But 5 base damage at lvl 1 Shiv? I understand that you want to shift Shaco more towards relying on deceive and clever box usage, but this is just ridiculous. It'd be better if the shiv was made into a skillshot like Rengar's bola was, instead of just nerfing it to the ground for the whole early-mid.

The current changes seem to focus on making Shaco more unique, but it's killing his identity, his itemization, and many of the fun and cheesy playstyles that brought a lot of people to playing Shaco in the first place. If you're going to nerf his early ganking, just nerf his early game by reducing stealth duration. If the Shiv is too powerful and reliable for a point and click ability, make it a skillshot and maybe tone down the scaling a bit if making it a skillshot isn't enough.

TLDR: From what I've seen of it so far, the Shaco rework is going to be as or possibly more unsuccessful than the Morde rework unless some major changes are made.

2 Comments

TeemoXNidalee1 votes

Reworked shiv scales with total ad I think

ReshiKillim1 votes

Live Shiv has 100% bonus AD scaling which increases to 120% when proccing backstab. Same with the AP ratio.

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