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Ahristocats3 votes

woah it's almost as if janna is one of those champions that always had a high win rate

time has never changed, even in league's old GD forum every single janna thread had ONLY for argument "wow, look at the win rate"

Penns1 votes

y is it ok for janna tho lel over 20% pick rate and perma ~55% win rate in dia+ on any other champ = opieop

Ahristocats2 votes

yeah, never picked in pro, hmmmm, i wonder why son

oh, maybe it's because they're not dumbass to play divers and assassins into janna, but instead they go for tanks, melee carries, long range mages and adcs, making janna completly useless

yeah, i'm really not getting it, janna is so broken i should tell pros to pick her

Penns1 votes

Pro play =/= soloq tho 20% pick rate with 55% win rate on any other champ that isnt played in pro play still = opieop

And why is her pick rate in bronze - gold around 10% and in dia+ over 20% with the same win rate if you just need to be good and not pick divers hehe

Ahristocats2 votes

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Pro play =/= soloq tho

you don't say

all i'm telling you is that if you're as smart as pro players janna will not be a problem to you

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20% pick rate with 55% win rate on any other champ that isnt played in pro play still = opieop

And why is her pick rate in bronze - gold around 10% and in dia+ over 20% with the same win rate if you just need to be good and not pick divers hehe

you don't need to give me stats

because i give 0 fuck, i know this shit since 5 years now and it has never changed, riot nerfed janna a lot of time by nerfing EVERYTHING but disengage, tornado is trash unless charged, passive only works if people walk toward you, ult stun after knockback is 0.25 instead of 0.75 passive no longer works on janna

everything was made to make janna boring af by only able to stay behind, help her team to disengage and that's it

and now, you want to nerf her for doing that, when in pro she's not picked because people won't be dumb to pick divers into her

it's pointless, end of discussion here

Penns1 votes

you dont have to first pick janna if you want to pick her in pro play tho btw lel dont really want her nerfed but those stats being accepted is interesting xd

AirKingNeo4 votes

He's saying Janna isn't picked in Proplay because no one picks bruisers in proplay except J4, who's ult can't be negated by Janna ult. Instead pro play picks tanks, which means no bruisers which means no Janna.

BALDG1VEN BOOMER1 votes

Are you a pro player or a solo queue player? Why try to argue something that only caters to the top 0.00001% of players.

In solo queue players will always play whatever they want, whatever makes them feel comfortable or whatever they're good at, yes people will play Alistar into Janna.

But when you have a champions consistency at a high rate in what is considered high solo queue there isn't any issues there? But I guess you're going to tell me I'm stupid and should start playing like a pro right?

Ahristocats1 votes

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In solo queue players will always play whatever they want, whatever makes them feel comfortable or whatever they're good at, yes people will play Alistar into Janna.

so we should balance the game around people being dumb xD?

BALDG1VEN BOOMER1 votes

That's not the point I'm making, the point is things will vary and using pro play as an example only dipicts nothing because it's a completely different level of the game.

What happens in pro play does not happen in solo queue and will never because solo queue is more of a blood bath.

So when you have a champion that has a consistent performance at higher elos instead of lower ones that mean there's something about the champion that better players are using to their advantage, this game is balanced around the top ladder but isnt balanced around pro play, I never said we should balance around the idea of "being stupid xD" (which also isn't an insightful argument either) because things can also vary such as first pick, flex picking, one tricks/mains, off roles etc.

But of course since we're talking about pro play Janna kit is complete trash right and other champions should be sitting at a sub 50% win rate

Laughing Fish2 votes

yeah, i'm really not getting it, janna is so broken i should tell pros to pick her

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Excalibait1 votes

Janna, Soraka and Sona live in their very own world right now because of how broken Coin + Censer is. Just because it's not seen much in "pro play" it's not so present and no one really cares.

Thresh on the other hand has a stupidly high pickrate and still maintains a solid win rate, so everyone is on the flame-train.

PhearBunny1 votes

Thresh hard counters so many things, theres just never a bad time to pick him really.

Its All Skillzz1 votes
BALDG1VEN BOOMER1 votes

Janna always had a win rate in the mid 50s while holding a moderate play rate around 15 - 20%, she's been nerfed numerous of times yet still continues to stay a float, she was hit a bit when coin was changed and stayed around 51% win rate but with the change to coin she shot up back again.

Like I said she's been nerfed numerous of times unless Riot commits to a rework she'll always remain with her win rate in the mid 50s.

Some Noob Dude1 votes

Thing is, Janna is safe and not too hard to play, while being efficient. So even average players can play good with her, whichexplains the high winrate. Also, she is more of a reactive champion, which means less chances of making a mistake and more chances to correct them. It's her power to fix her allies' mistakes that makes her have a high winrate, it's not necessarily because she's too strong.

LethalTempo Jhin1 votes

I mean, you don't have to be a mechanical god to play Janna Soraka Sona... item 3504 item 3301 certainly help things.

Thresh on the other hand... Correct me if I am wrong, but isn't he supposed to be a tough champion to master?

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