100% of this games balance issues could be solved if you just removed all of the champions.

DunkinNoobs·Dec 5, 2016·209 votes·4,761 views

So what's the holdup Rito? Do you want a balanced game or not? Every day I log in and see that there's still champions in the game which really makes me question your dedication to balancing this game. And worse, not only do you not remove all the current champions, but you continually add new ones as well! Your insistence on having actual playable champions in the game is having a disastrous effects on League's balance and frankly, I expected better from a company of Rito's stature. Do the right thing Riot.

64 Comments

MelledoneusDec 5, 201645 votes

No way! You forget that "champion" is subjective, thus the removal process will leave in Gromp, the most broken offender of unbalanced mechanics.

DunkinNoobsDec 5, 201637 votes

Gromp is so 2015. Everyone knows it's all about the Raptor clan now.

DVA545Dec 5, 20168 votes

Ehm Krugs anyone?

DunkinNoobsDec 5, 201628 votes

Krugs may take a long time to kill, but they probably won't kill you. Raptors? You don't fuck with raptors.

Sariat1Dec 5, 20162 votes

You guys are all so lucky that Riot handicapped scuttlecrab, otherwise he'd be harder than Baron to kill.

GULAG 4 UDec 5, 20161 votes

So you want to know how to be a masochist without playing aatrox? Just do raptors at level 2 when you could do krugs. It's easy : ^)

DunkinNoobsDec 5, 20165 votes

I actually do raptors lvl 1 on some champs. That's just how hardcore I am.

GULAG 4 UDec 6, 20161 votes

That's doesn't work unless you play aatrox lol, you'd get executed unless you insta smite the big rap and aoe the small ones.

DunkinNoobsDec 6, 20164 votes

It's really not that hard. I've done it on all these junglers. DrMundo Graves Gragas Hecarim Jax Kayle RekSai Olaf Sejuani Shyvana Udyr

GULAG 4 UDec 6, 20161 votes

Why not start red into krugs anyways?

DunkinNoobsDec 6, 20163 votes

You would if you're clearing your own jungle, yes. But I'm typically starting the enemy raptors in this scenario and I'm gonna take all of it.

GULAG 4 UDec 6, 20163 votes

Oh shit that's next level Lol

RisenDarkKnightDec 6, 20163 votes

Raptors are actually super easy for Amumu, the way his E works makes clearing them super fast.

DasCabbageManDec 6, 20161 votes

Kindred

Glory ln DeathDec 6, 20162 votes

What's wrong with getting executed? That just makes it easier to kill them.

Oh. You don't play Sion, do you?

Fondling GemsDec 6, 20161 votes

You say that like you have to ask if people play Sion. Everyone knows he just got reworked into old Yorick.

Glory ln DeathDec 7, 20161 votes

Hmmm...

Old Yorick: Unbalanceable monstrosity who was so toxic to the game and in such a bad state that he couldn't be fixed without a rework, to the point that he was even removed from the free champion rotation.

Reworked Sion: Amazingly well-balanced champion who works perfectly in game and is generally considered the gold standard of champion reworks.

Not seeing a similarity there. Unless you're just saying they both have small playerbases, in which case a champion like Urgot, Karthus, or Rumble would have been better choices.

Fondling GemsDec 7, 20161 votes

Well the rest of my comment implied that it was a comment on playerbase size.

That being said I am not so mean as to compare Sion to Urgot in the respect. There are at least 2 of you. You, and the guy who didn't have to spell IN as LN.

Glory ln DeathDec 7, 20161 votes

Don't forget Ralanr.

5000000000000000Dec 5, 201616 votes

No, that would break queue times.

DunkinNoobsDec 5, 201625 votes

At least bans would go faster.

ThePerson76Dec 6, 20163 votes

No, because people would have trouble deciding what to ban. Total Balance=Everything is a legitimate ban.

Big LincolnDec 5, 201615 votes

ummmm no because purple side minions push harder too lane

nice try caster minion

EpicanianDec 5, 201615 votes

Yeah honestly after 18 years of playing this game, I'm quitting. I submitted a request to have my account deleted yesterday. It seems like Rito just doesn't care about the issue of having champions in this game. they've been in this game since Season One, and such an easy problem to fix... it's sad. riot is clearly only in it for the money.

The GovernerDec 6, 201613 votes

I almost got trolled by your comment, until I finally took notice of this:

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Yeah honestly after 18 years of playing this game

###18 years ##18 years #18 years

EpicanianDec 6, 20165 votes

I don't see your point?

The GovernerDec 6, 20161 votes

I mean I thought you were serious until I noticed that at the last second.

EpicanianDec 6, 20164 votes

wat you mean I'm being serious

AeszarckDec 6, 20162 votes

{quoted}

Yeah honestly after 18 years of playing this game, I'm quitting. I submitted a request to have my account deleted yesterday. It seems like Rito just doesn't care about the issue of having champions in this game. they've been in this game since Season One, and such an easy problem to fix... it's sad. riot is clearly only in it for the money.

That's a better solution! There would be no issues at all if there were no accounts! Good idea Epicanian!

WeatheredDec 5, 201612 votes

I remember a certain comical post about Keystones trying to be serious.

MontethePythonDec 6, 20162 votes

Keystones can be balanced so easily if rito just removes champions, the only thing making keystones broken was the addition of champions. Rito plz Champions ruin the game and the keystones.

GigaPubeDec 6, 20163 votes

but dude, he did the calcamalations, exactly 50% of the problems will go away if they JUST REMOVED KEYSTONES. just like how 69% of balance issues were fixed when they removed boot enchantments, and 420% of alliance tissues were removed when they removed atmas impaler

MerlinezDec 6, 20164 votes

The reason why people don't leash raptor instead of gromp is because raptors can 2v1 easy. raptors > baron

bill84Dec 6, 20163 votes

But then there are still items. You don't want to see baron running around with item 3111 item 3078 item 3031 item 3085 item 3053 item 3026

Sheen procs for 775, crits for 1,200, shield for 30% health and a revive for another 30% health.

MontethePythonDec 7, 20161 votes

Yes but Baron is very high skill-cap, he had to outplay hard or lose. Now gromp needs a nerf, he's a high offender with the new lethality crit builds.

S0LST0RMERDec 23, 20161 votes

hahaha

S0LST0RMERDec 6, 20163 votes

i agree, dunkey once said that the game should only have minions

mikemcpartyDec 6, 20162 votes

Eventually, one minion will take his team to glory

S0LST0RMERDec 23, 20161 votes

if i could play as a castor minion i could die in peace

Masterofchaos999Dec 6, 20163 votes

No it wouldn't, cannon minions are way overpowered compared to the fighters and casters.

AMYS GRAVEDec 6, 20162 votes

Actually red side minions focus enemy minions differently than blue side minions, meaning that in a game with no champions blue side would be OP and need nerfed.

Pale PirateDec 6, 20162 votes

You are speaking absolute nonsense (Kappa). If there were no champions, the game would be decided by minions, and we all know players won't be able to play around minions if they have no champions, which will make for a very toxic, rng-based gaming experience.

JoseraphDec 6, 20162 votes

Items, keystone masteries, and runes are also toxic, and 70% of this games balance issues.

100greenmenDec 6, 20161 votes

If this isn't the most intellectually stimulating thread since the upvoting yasuo threads I don't know what is.

Me0wsticDec 6, 20161 votes

How about holding one champion? That would also be balanced.

DunkinNoobsDec 6, 20163 votes

If you only had 1 champ, then that champ would have a 100% winrate which is clearly unbalanced. All champs need to go, I'm afraid.

Chembaron YamadaDec 6, 20166 votes

He would have a winrate of exact 50%, actually, which is perfectly balanced. If everyone has to pick that champion since it is the only one, that means each match that champ will win 5 times AND lose 5 times -> 50% winrate.

mikemcpartyDec 6, 20161 votes

You simply can't argue with the facts

Fondling GemsDec 6, 20161 votes

Do you not read the LoL boards? We clearly prove that you can. Case and point, I am arguing with your stated fact that one can't argue with facts. We really are amazing aren't we?

OelykDec 7, 20161 votes

that would break all the game balance there is! logically(ik memes and games but still) If you have a scale, then it disapeared, there is no balance! hence no balance issues, but no balance either! we would have nothing!