Don't bite the hand that feeds you

The Deckowner·Oct 21, 2016·4 votes·441 views

When someone else ganked for you and got you a lead, be thankful, don't flame the jungler because you didn't get the kill, you are still earning huge advantage with your lane opponent dead.

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CerealBoxOfDoomOct 21, 20161 votes

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When someone else ganked for you and got you a lead, be thankful, don't flame the jungler because you didn't get the kill, you are still earning huge advantage with your lane opponent dead.

no, you aren't getting a huge advantage

you are using your resources you are setting things up for the visitor and wasting time you are taking away from the other lanes and risking something because someone could come counter this and they probably wont go for the jungler in many cases

there will be advantage but it wont be huge and more likely than not taking that kill is not going to leave you with much to show for it as far as actual results go.

You shouldn't "bite" people in general but if you come to my lane uninvited don't act like my fucking savior ESPECIALLY IF I TELL YOU NOT TO FUCKING COME

cant even count the number of times I've had to go base and lose farm because after a gank I cant risk staying and end up losing more gold and levels than I would have without the gank and then they get mad when I just let them do the gank on their own without me after I spend 30 seconds telling them not to come.

These fucking junglers and their egos!

WoodakoodashoodaOct 21, 20164 votes

Here's an idea. How about neither of you treat your allies like they are the enemy. Players like you cost so many games, it's not funny.

CerealBoxOfDoomOct 21, 20161 votes

They are the enemy, who are you bullshitting. This is league not call of duty

Troy242621Oct 22, 20161 votes

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no, you aren't getting a huge advantage

you are using your resources you are setting things up for the visitor and wasting time you are taking away from the other lanes and risking something because someone could come counter this and they probably wont go for the jungler in many cases

there will be advantage but it wont be huge and more likely than not taking that kill is not going to leave you with much to show for it as far as actual results go.

You shouldn't "bite" people in general but if you come to my lane uninvited don't act like my fucking savior ESPECIALLY IF I TELL YOU NOT TO FUCKING COME

cant even count the number of times I've had to go base and lose farm because after a gank I cant risk staying and end up losing more gold and levels than I would have without the gank and then they get mad when I just let them do the gank on their own without me after I spend 30 seconds telling them not to come.

These fucking junglers and their egos!

The only time a jungler is being a dick whilst ganking is if they half-ass shove a lane causing it to freeze next to the enemy tower then walk off. They SHOULD BE helping shove to deny the enemy laner all that XP/Gold.

CerealBoxOfDoomOct 22, 20161 votes

I've got my lane frozen Jungler pings I say no he pings again

I type out "NO!!!" "STOP" "IM NOT HELPING IF YOU COME"

he comes anyways and I'm not doing shit I'm keeping this lane frozen and not spending any mana to risk it on that gank, I don't care if we would get the kill. I'm 20 cs ahead and growing, I'm fuckn banking on this freeze

so he comes to help me push because I'm such a noob.

alternatively

he comes I help him

even if we kill the opponent I can't stay in lane and farm because I can't risk it with such low hp and no mana thanks to him. There are two long range ults in play as well.

fucking hell my teleport is down! Now ive gotta go back and watch as I get denied cs because some asshole jungler decided to ignore me for a kill that wasn't even worth it AND COULDNT EVEN LET ME HAVE THE DAMN THING SO I COULD ACTUALLY AFFORD SOMETHING WHEN I GO BASE BECAUSE OF WHAT HE DID

Oh but I can't complain because I'm such a fucking charity case who needs this hand to "feed me"

There are times when its easier to just bite that hand rather than swallow the shit it tries to force down your throat but really you shouldn't bite people

The DeckownerOct 22, 20161 votes

you got 150 gold for an assist you get at least a whole wave of minions for free hile your enemy loses the farm to tower, and you are free to go anywhere for 30 seconds. If you aren't getting advantage with your enemy dead, you are completely useless and a terrible player.

CerealBoxOfDoomOct 22, 20161 votes

I don't even get 100 gold I don't get a single minion I cannot afford to stay in lane for even another second unless I want to die horribly I do not get to push the wave I am not free to do shit, I had to get the fuck out of lane now. Even if I have the hp I'm oom and in a bad spot now

I was better off before helping this jungler lane

When I say don't fucking come then don't fucking come. Especially if it will hurt more than help. But yes its great if you just assume the enemy is a bunch of incompetents who didn't see that asshole sitting in the bush all that time even though the enemy laner was clearly trying to avoid it, probably not leaving knowing i'd have more to lose from the gank than i'd gain. In the end I lose cs and farm and thelane resets without the enemy even being there because even the timing was shit and I didn't get to even out the wave.

I'm not sure why but junglers seem to think they are fucking gods that can do no wrong because the kill just justifies everything. Then they turn around and whine because they ganked and you still didn't do well. Ironically I tend to do better without this kindof obsessive "help"

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The DeckownerOct 22, 20162 votes

I don't even get 100 gold

if you don't even get 100 gold then your enemy laner is probably killed over and over already and you should be stomping the lane.

I don't get a single minion I cannot afford to stay in lane for even another second unless I want to die horribly

First usually junglers just get the minions low so laner can push faster, secondly if you can't contest last hit against a jungler...you are terrible at this game. also since your jungler is pushing with you you shouldn't die.

I do not get to push the wave I am not free to do shit, I had to get the fuck out of lane now. Even if I have the hp I'm oom and in a bad spot now

you are just contradicting yourself now, you said your jungler is taking your farm and now you say your lane isn't pushed? Also if you are already low in hp or mana, even if your jungler doesn't come you would be in a shitty spot in lane anyways.

Not sure why you think your teammate is intentionally trying to harm you, did you get troll by a 4man premade? did that leave you a psychological scar?

CerealBoxOfDoomOct 22, 20161 votes

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if you don't even get 100 gold then your enemy laner is probably killed over and over already and you should be stomping the lane.

have you even played league?

First usually junglers just get the minions low so laner can push faster

I don't have time to wait on him and neither does the rest of the team who now has no jungler

secondly if you can't contest last hit against a jungler...

I do not have time to sit there and watch my jungler unfreeze my lane

you are terrible at this game. also since your jungler is pushing with you you shouldn't die.

My jungler can't do shit about nocturne ashe jinx etc and sure as hell can't stop that incoming teleport form I don't even give a fuck where if it comes

you are just contradicting yourself now, you said your jungler is taking your farm and now you say your lane isn't pushed?

I said either or.

fucked if he doesn't take it fucked if he does

I've had both issues

Also if you are already low in hp or mana, even if your jungler doesn't come you would be in a shitty spot in lane anyways.

the lane was frozen, I'm gaining more mana than I'm losing, everything is awesome as lone as my fucking jungler doesn't come to save me from winning

Not sure why you think your teammate is intentionally trying to harm you, did you get troll by a 4man premade? did that leave you a psychological scar?

4 people didn't make the decision to ignore 5 typed out warnings and 6+ pings

it was 1 and it was the damn jungler

Oh and the best part of all is when I finally freeze my lane again and he comes top and gets his shit rek'd in a 1v1 because I make good on my promise not to do anything if he came

He dies and my lane remains stable. Enemy laner has a bounty now and still can't do anything about this freeze in time to stop me from pulling ahead.. that is until the jungler comes back to tax me for his fail gank

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The DeckownerOct 22, 20161 votes

I am not even going to reply rest of your reply, since you have show that you don't know anything about the game. Here is some basic knowledge about kill and assist for you, enjoy the knowledge.

An Assist is the action of helping an allied champion kill someone. You can either score an assist by hitting (without killing) the champion in the last 10 seconds before their death, or by contributing passively during this period of time. When a champion is killed, the killer gets a certain amount of gold, while 50% of that amount is divided up among everyone who got an assist on it.

A champion with neutral gold value(not feeding) is worth 300, an assist shared among 1 person grants 150 gold.

CerealBoxOfDoomOct 22, 20161 votes

Which contradicts not one fucking thing I said

Death sprees reduce the gold gained (kill/assist) from champions by a set amount based on their consecutive deaths without getting a single kill (starts to take effect once a champion has their Bounty Tier reduced to 0). ◾ 1st death: 300 Gold (assist pool is 150 Gold) ◾ 2nd death: 274 Gold (assist pool is 137 Gold) ◾ 3rd death: 220 Gold (assist pool is 110 Gold) ◾ 4th death: 176 Gold (assist pool is 88 Gold)

Maybe actually quote more than what conveniently supports your bullshit

The DeckownerOct 22, 20161 votes

if you don't even get 100 gold then your enemy laner is probably killed over and over already and you should be stomping the lane.

did you even read my reply? I stated this before already. If you sre getting less than 100 gold your opponent should be 0/5/0 and should not be able to stand in lane without getting stomped to death.

jesus read your shit before you post it

CerealBoxOfDoomOct 22, 20161 votes

Unless you're playing toplane and this doesn't actually always mean shit. On the otherhand you can freeze the lane and leave them to rot while jungles goes and gets that unwarded dragon instead of trying so hard to "help" only to get his ass beat and waste resources.. if I decide to go "get fed" by him

Like I said, if I say to stay the hell away don't come to my lane expecting to come do vindictive shit just for the sake of doing so.

The DeckownerOct 22, 20161 votes

you are literally denying global gold from your team if you freeze the lane against a 0/5 enemy.

CerealBoxOfDoomOct 22, 20161 votes

guess he must have a reason for that, better rush top and fail to 1v1 a 0/4

The DeckownerOct 22, 20161 votes

hah who expects the 5/0 top laner to be retarded right?

CerealBoxOfDoomOct 22, 20161 votes

only the shit jungler who is wasting time in my lane apparently. You must be the type who does this sort of thing to people then pretends he was actually helping someone

Troy242621Oct 22, 20161 votes

After a gank (provided the enemy doesn't have tele up) help them shove the lane.