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Everyone is complaining about Hecarim but...

DoktorKaiser··5 votes·1,460 views

I cant seem to make him fucking work. What the hell? I lose every early game, I die in every invade, my ganks are trash because I feel so squishy and die if there is any countergank/turnaround, I cant tower dive because I die immediately, if I dont have the blue buff I run out of mana in the matter of seconds, I am still to build triforce first item because I already get 1 shot all the time and its so expensive that by the time I went tank I would probably either farm all game making me useless or die in every single teamfight/skirmish, on the other hand because I go tanky early game, by the time I get triforce game either ends or I get it and cant seem to do shit because everyone is tanky already, I mean I can 1 shot the ADC yes, but I still somehow feel squishy and die fast. Not saying that I am total trash on him and dont do anything its just that he is supposed to be broken af right now according to everyone and I did use to main him back when he wasnt even that good (season 3, also I had much much more success with him back then) but I cant seem to carry with him and I get flamed for it quite often.

On the other hand is Volibear who is considered trash, even fucking Trick2g stopped playing Voli, but somehow I cant seem to lose on this guy. Yes the first clear sucks balls, but after that its a breeze, I am never low in the jungle, its impossible to die during a gank because of the passive, both ghost and passive have a very short cooldown so I am able to constantly gank and constatly tower dive people, after I buy just 2 health items I feel unkillable and can easily solo kill 2 carries unless they are champions that can kite extremely well or flash over the wall, I mean Q (which is also an auto) - 2 AA - W kills any non tank champion in the game easily, also after 6 items I can literally go 1v5 and not die ever so they either flash away, blow all CC/ultimates on me or fight me and die to my ulti and W. I mean I literally got 10 S+ in a row.

How is this possible, its been going on for a month now on multiple accounts in 2 regions and different elos. How can I dominate on a "trash" champion but constantly fail miserably on a champ that everyone from bronze to pros consideres broken in solo queue ?? Am I doing something wrong? Sorry for the wall of text.

9 Comments

Angry Monster2 votes

It boils down to luck, and the luck is about how dumb the enemy is. Hec early game is actually quite weak and counts on your ablity to roll into lands that are over extended. He does nothing really on his own and has to scale into the late game monster that everyone complains about.

Escheton1 votes

Are you using ad runes and rushing cinderhulk? And grabbing CotC?

But mostly it's comfort. Each champion has a different feel and playstyle. And some just mesh well you as a player, some don't. It's nice if you mesh with what is currently meta because it makes things easier, but if you don't you are much more likely to climb with what fits you personally. Why do you think there are 100+ such diverse champions?

DoktorKaiser1 votes

Yeah of course I know what runes/materies/items I am supposed to get, I am playing for 7 years, just dont understand how I can fail with Heca when he is apparently broken af, but had success when he was considered ok or even trash. Maybe its that he is so infamous now that everyone focuses me first, I kind of have that feeling, unlike Voli when people seem to ignore me untill I 1 shot them. Cant really explain this in any logical way... :/

Divine Winds1 votes

Some champions just aren't for you...

Everyone has that one champion who they always have problems with, or only win due to the enemy being extremely bad at decisions for me its TwistedFate

Escheton1 votes

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Yeah of course I know what runes/materies/items I am supposed to get, I am playing for 7 years, just dont understand how I can fail with Heca when he is apparently broken af, but had success when he was considered ok or even trash. Maybe its that he is so infamous now that everyone focuses me first, I kind of have that feeling, unlike Voli when people seem to ignore me untill I 1 shot them. Cant really explain this in any logical way... :/

Thats exactly it though. And on top of that because Heca is meta your team is far more likely to follow up your plays, so you are seen as more of a threat. As long as you are alive, they will engage. Whereas Voli, both you and your team-mates are seen as less of a threat, because they follow less obviously, or late. "And what does Voli do again? He's like a melee Singed right? Ow blargh, he does dmg, I'm dead. "

Divine Winds1 votes

With Hec, what you want to do is try to wrap around the enemy laner. Your laner needs to set the gank up so that the wave is on your side, and the enemy needs to push up to cs. At that point, going around and hitting them with your e will push them further into the lane. Another good way is to ult behind them, then e them into your team.

And you can't invade as Hec. You're going to die to any burst. GO CotC get ad/atk speed or movement speed runes. Then go cinderhulk if you are worried about being too squishy. I prefer more damage, since I build him a lot more glass cannon. Farm and gank if you can get the kill 100%. Be sure to tell your laners how to set up ganks. If they don't set it up for you, don't force anything. If nothing is set up, perma farm, or take lane farm if your laner is backed.

Another really good trick, which has little to do with your problem, is when you take red, q the raptors then drag them up to the buff. Press W and you will heal all of your hp back.

Good Luck on the Rift.

agbudar1 votes

always go CotC on hec get enough armor runes start item 1039 only use W when you have 2 stacks of Q cinderhulk and trinity should make you tanky ish

move quints would also be a good idea on him if you have trouble sustaining in jungle take some lifesteal quints instead

Asayake 5150glow1 votes

Cotc nerfs did happen.

Ralph Lars1 votes

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I cant seem to make him fucking work. What the hell? I lose every early game, I die in every invade, my ganks are trash because I feel so squishy and die if there is any countergank/turnaround, I cant tower dive because I die immediately, if I dont have the blue buff I run out of mana in the matter of seconds, I am still to build triforce first item because I already get 1 shot all the time and its so expensive that by the time I went tank I would probably either farm all game making me useless or die in every single teamfight/skirmish, on the other hand because I go tanky early game, by the time I get triforce game either ends or I get it and cant seem to do shit because everyone is tanky already, I mean I can 1 shot the ADC yes, but I still somehow feel squishy and die fast. Not saying that I am total trash on him and dont do anything its just that he is supposed to be broken af right now according to everyone and I did use to main him back when he wasnt even that good (season 3, also I had much much more success with him back then) but I cant seem to carry with him and I get flamed for it quite often.

Hecarim is one of my favorite junglers and my go-to jungler if we don't need a tank. Based on your description sounds to me that you can't read lanes. He is snowball-dependent and actually pretty good at snowballing, I love literally stomping my enemies and watch them rage in all-chat "fucking horse" xD.

You need to discern when it's a good moment gank, otherwise do not bother, just keep farming cuz you will need that gold to get the Tri first.

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