Cassiopeia, the forsaken one?

Canastus··34 votes·3,285 views

You know, as a longtime Cassiopeia player I feel really disappointed by what Riot has (or more like HASN'T) done to this champ so far. I remember Meddler dropping by in another thread about a month ago, telling us how there isn't anything planned for the snakelady. Meanwhile tons of champions are getting attention (a great example would be the latest patch) whereas Cass remains simply neglected and unloved.

I think the best way to voice my disappointment would be a list of things which left a bad impression on me this season, just to give a better insight on how I perceived the recent development on this champion.


1. The most popular argument by far has to be the way her rework was handled and realized. Many of you should still remember how extremely upset players were when the rework went live without any feedback being taken in consideration beforehand. The guy in charge of this project had the bad tendency of disappearing for extended periods of time while seemingly ignoring HUNDREDS of pages with arguments AGAINST the direction this rework was going.

Many of us already feared the consequences these changes would bring with them since her current kit is heavily focusing on a playstyle that cannot be healthy, no matter what. Either she's completely destroying her opponent in lane or she becomes useless for the rest of the game, there's simply no middle ground in between. Cassiopeia's primary identity is the one of an immobile squishy champion with abnormal mana needs who relies on spamming a short range damage ability. She's the epitome of high risk and low reward right now.

2. Her gameplay is extremely monotone and lacks any diversity compared to the build paths and playstyles her old self offered. Her poison only serves as a tool to enable Twin Fang spam nowadays, playing her as "poison mage" with DELAYED skillshots is apparently out of question since it's widely considered a toxic playstyle by Riot. Meanwhile high range nukes and hooks are still allowed to exist on other (and more mobile) champions - abilities which come with extreme kill potential once they've hit their target even once.

3. This brings me to my third point, the evolution of her winrate/pickrate. You surely remember how Cassiopeia was considered the worst champion in the game after the initial rework, sporting a winrate of 37% across all elos. After WEEKS of crying they finally reacted and gave her some much needed number buffs. And guess what, she finally saw some play. While some called her overpowered after that, I still considered her a somewhat balanced pick due to her huge handicaps which still made her extremely fragile against hard cc, burst and high range poke.

Despite all of that she was nerfed several times to this very day. We seem to have gone almost full circle at this point, with her winrate reaching another low (44%) and her previous counterpicks receiving buffs. She has fallen fallen out of favor for months already and yet there wasn't a single attempt at fixing this mess as Meddler has said himself. If a champion has become that much of a problem that any form of buffs are perceived as gamebreaking on them, shouldn't be the priority to rework said champion?

4. What exactly was the purpose of the rework then? To raise her popularity while making her widely accessible to other players? Well in this case your rework has failed, there's no debating it. What she needs is a kit that heavily focuses on her original identity as poison mage if you ask me. Right now no one even wants to play her, her pickrate is lower than it ever (!) was before. I realize she still sees some play in the korean and chinese pro scene but those are on a whole different level of communication and teamwork. Meanwhile the LCS doesn't even acknowledge her existence anymore.

You may think that only dedicated mains are playing her but her winrate is just proof of how unplayable she has become in a Solo Q environment. The thing is, you cannot balance a game around an extremely slim minority while leaving a champion pretty much unusuable to the rest of the community. That's just questionable game design.

5. And finally, where are the highly demanded skins? If you haven't realized it yet, some of the more artistic endowed members of her playerbase have created incredibly awesome skin concepts since her initial release, and yet the only thing she gets is a lazily done set of chromas. Speaking of quality, how come her Mythic skin still costs 975 RP while other skins of that tier come with a recall animation and/or new particles whereas her skin has none of those things? You seriously need to reconsider your pricing.

It's been over 2 1/2 years since her last skin release, meanwhile someone like Ahri gets a new one almost every 6 months (well, at least feels it that way). If this isn't a clear sign of favoritism, I don't know what. Speaking of fanservice, I haven't seen a single trace of the dear snakelady in your merchandise nor in your cinematics or summoner icons, you act as if she doesn't exist. Cassiopeia already is the black sheep of the Du Couteau family and you apparently want to keep it like that in many other ways.

27 Comments

CasterGilgamesh14 votes

i would like it if riot shifted away the power of her kit from her E to her Q and W this is what they made her

Leu077 votes

She can be strong if mastered, but why take the time to master her if you can master Azir who has better and safer laning phase and safer and stronger late game (cause of range and aoe damage output, not to mention his great ult)? Viktor feels like a better short range mage aswell... so why risk yourself playing cass if the risk is too high, she feels more situational than Azir and Vik too. Or you could just play Ahri who doesnt need a lot of time to master and still be really safe and a beast, while also you'll be getting skins every 5 patches, lol. So yeah, I hope the address Cassiopeia soon.

Canastus5 votes

It's just like you said, there's simply no reason to play Cassiopeia. She feels inferior and redundant in every aspect.

MrWasjig1 votes

In my opinion she has a similar problem to Veigar at the moment, and that's a lack of agency. I think Riot needs to make her stand out in some way (through a total overhaul obviously) I myself don't have any ideas but that's what they need to do. Because as was previously stated there are other champions who can do what she does, consistent, sustained magic damage (See Azir ) And they can do it better with more safety. Makes her a sort of vestigial champion in that, she's just kinda....there.

Oerba No Naja1 votes

yes , exactly thats why cassio twin fangs sucks , and thats why cassio poison was better

A Miss Fortune5 votes

Don't care what happens to her as long as she turns into an awesome Poison Mage and not the machine gun we have today.

kneel on Ice5 votes

i really used to main Cassiopeia , but that was before her rework ...

Linna Excel5 votes

meanwhile someone like Ahri gets a new one almost every 6 months

Ahri skin sales probably cover all of riot's expenses.

A Superb Villain3 votes

Cassiopeia needs help, no doubt about. I just find it more concerning that she has been effectively ignored since her rework.

Also, did you make that profile image? Because I think it looks fabulous.

Canastus3 votes

I didn't draw the image but I got a neat folder with plenty of fanart featuring the dear snakelady. Cassiopeia

A Superb Villain3 votes

Ah. Well it is still fabulous and your post still outline Cassiopeia's issues. Granted, you have made many posts, all of them detailing how the rework seriously damaged her playstyle. I hope one of these days Riot does Cassiopeia justice.

PenguinOverlord83 votes

I must agree. I used to love cass but I stop playing her as much. As much as I love playing her the fact that is "Spam e, the character" Kind of sucks. I'm not that good at the game or idea's of balance but I had the idea of having her e on a charge system while her poisons got a big buff. That was her poisons do something , she still remains as a lane bully and her spammy e but she has more to her now. Just a thought. Also I love her desperado skin but she doesn't have any super cool must buy type of skins.

Rito Staff2 votes

{quoted}Cassiopeia already is the black sheep of the Du Couteau family and you apparently want to keep it like that in many other ways.

Well, at least you can't say her design doesn't portray her lore :D

Just dropping by a bump, it was a fun read through even though I haven't ever played cassio I think. Anyways I'm all for making every champ viable and fun.

I just think they're busy with other reworks. Despite being in a bad spot, as you seem to know about it, she was reworked already so it might take a bit longer now D:

As to not seeing play in LCS that's not a big deal because a lot of champions don't =P (which is not ok, but pretty standart)

Canastus16 votes

The only thing the rework did was leave her in shambles. She may have been a low priority pick before that but she still was a lot more fun and viable to play as if you knew what you're doing, now she's simply getting trashed by the meta since all of her counterpicks happen to be extremely popular and strong champions who received buffs.

What she needs is a proper rework, period. There is no way around it.

Captain Aishi1 votes

too bad that right now they're too busy doing to Darius exactly what they did to her last year

Ehkrickor2 votes

I know the feels, Galio is in the same boat

Only Aatrox2 votes

As an Aatrox main how do you thik I feel? Morello announced they wanted to rework him 18 months ago and still nothing. But hey at elast we got a pretty cool new skin!

Canastus2 votes

Nice name. Aatrox

Only Aatrox2 votes

<3

Canastus1 votes

You know, I believe I've played with you before, your name is somewhat familiar to me.

I also have a fitting Cass related name for my main acc on EUW.

Only Aatrox1 votes

Well this is my smurf, which is only level 24 i believe? Whats your name?

Canastus1 votes

Ah, alright. Well I've sent you a friend invite, you should see my name then. I just prefer to have some privacy which is why I use this NA smurf to post about controversial topics.

Only Aatrox1 votes

I like your name too haha

Oerba No Naja2 votes

2 words : fck riot

Rebonack1 votes

Meanwhile, people who mained Eve and Karma...

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