Playing jungle well no longer feels rewarding in the majority of games

Yenn··1 votes·373 views

This role has low impact this season if more than one of your lanes is in a bad match up or not performing well.

I'm often finding myself in scenarios where I dominate the early game, but 2-3 of my lanes are outmatched and cannot stay afloat without my intervention. These games feel horrible from start to finish, because I need to be in multiple places at once, and I have to consciously decide which enemy champions I want to allow to get fed. This is fucked up and should not happen as often as it does.

Hyper scaling carries are also a major problem; even if they aren't playing well, I need to camp their lanes to stop them from scaling, often being forced to choose between dragons or letting a Nasus AFK farm because my top lane cannot 1v1 him. The same applies to Fiora, Jax, etc. Which means I'm giving up objective control and unable to focus my attention to one of my losing lanes.

There are so many games where I'm chain ganking 24/7 and controlling all objectives while the enemy jungle literally does nothing and still wins, because I can't be in every lane that needs help at the same time. It's reaching the point where I feel like I have to play a solo lane, because I'd rather have a potentially bad team mate in the jungle than in a solo lane.

Playing this role feels terrible and is and extremely unrewarding.

See my match history as an example of this. My normal games are with Diamond+ players. I have a 12 game win streak in normals with Udyr, around 80% overall, because both teams are often evenly matched and playing well actually tips the game. My ranked games placed me in Gold, where I'm barely holding a 50% win rate, because lanes are rarely evenly matched.

8 Comments

SilentBomber4 votes

As a Top laner i strongly disagree.In most of my games,enemy's jungler would simply be afk in bushes at top lane and camp me a lot,while my jungler would afk farm and do nothing at all.

Junglers always have an impact.From helping lanes to win to allowing enemy's jungle to do what he wants without out counter-ganking.Lost 4 promo's to Gold 3,as one of the reasons was my jungler being afk in jungle farming.I do not speak about top only but for bot too.

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Because the only lane that has impact is bot lane. As a jungler you actually have the biggest impact (next to bot lane not inting themselves) because you can be the one to influence bot lane. You think jungle has no impact? Try playing top lane.

Yenn1 votes

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Because the only lane that has impact is bot lane. As a jungler you actually have the biggest impact (next to bot lane not inting themselves) because you can be the one to influence bot lane. You think jungle has no impact? Try playing top lane.

Influencing bottom lane is only possible if both sides are even. If my bottom lane is getting bodied, I can only keep them afloat if I give them constant attention. This means I'm not giving middle or top any attention. If they're also getting bodied, what happens?

In exchange for keeping my bottom lane even, I now have to contend with a 5-0 Zed and/or 5-0 Camille, because I couldn't leave bottom lane alone. If it's something like Nasus or Fiora, good fucking game, they're now raid bosses because I couldn't devote any time to stopping their farm.

Meanwhile, if I were in one of the lanes instead of jungle and won it, I could still roam/teleport to bottom to help the remaining losing lane, and it doesn't matter if our jungle is doing nothing. That has significantly more impact than me being jungle with two losing lanes.

You're clearly not playing the same game.

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Influencing bottom lane is only possible if both sides are even. If my bottom lane is getting bodied, I can only keep them afloat if I give them constant attention. This means I'm not giving middle or top any attention. If they're also getting bodied, what happens?

In exchange for keeping my bottom lane even, I now have to contend with a 5-0 Zed and/or 5-0 Camille, because I couldn't leave bottom lane alone.

You're clearly not playing the same game.

And it is the bot lane that will deal with the 5/0 Zed and 5/0 Camille eventually if you nurture them properly. I've gone 5/1 on Nasus before, only to get shafted later on because Kog hit his 2 item "lategame" power spike. And if there's an imbalance in power to that extent you are talking about, no lane, not even bot lane can "hard-carry" unless the enemy throws by doing something stupid. It's not a jungler thing, you won't be carrying that as a top laner, a mid laner, a jungler, support or even an ADC unless you're also ridiculously fed.

It's a team game, solo carrying doesn't exist anymore.

zarxus12341 votes

jungle is almost already the worst role in the game. And they are making it worse. Riot has no clue.

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jungle is almost already the worst role in the game. And they are making it worse. Riot has no clue.

You clearly have not played top lane.

Hethalean1 votes

I get the feeling when you go to a solo lane that you're going to feel the same way as here. "How can I carry as X lane when all my other laners feed?".

banlun1 votes

This role has low impact this season if more than one of your lanes is in a bad match up or not performing well.

you're trolling..right?

jungle is THE most impactful role next to adc and support. you literally just clear your whole jungle then sit in a lane and camp it. that is it. there is no "oh man this guy did this path and he just smacked me in the jungle!" .

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