If champions like Azir and LeBlanc are never allowed to sit at 50%+ winrates in low elo without nerf

waiting for WoW·Dec 17, 2017·1 votes·357 views

Why does Riot mandate that brainless champions like Garen and Lux must ABSOLUTELY be at least 50-51%+ at diamond elo? And no this is not a QQ garen thread I just don't understand the hypocrisy.

Trying to make certain champions unplayable for everyone except one-tricks because "omg they warp the meta" but then also trying to force overly simple champions like miss fortune to be viable at every elo is nothing but hypocrisy.

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Critmaster GarenDec 18, 20173 votes

when azir and leblanc are at 50%+ winrates at low elo, theyre usually at almost 60% winrate at high elo.

theyre champions with high skill floors and high skill ceiling. hard to pick up and incredibly strong in a coordinated team, when mastered.

i dont know where garen sits at low elo right now, and frankly i dont give a shit. but usually when garen sits at 50%+ winrate in lower divisions, hes still below 50% winrate at the ratings that matter for game balance.

azirs and leblancs winrates largely increase as you go higher up in rank. garens slightly decreases. there is your answer.

k wìxDec 17, 20171 votes

I think it's because Riot considers more than winrate when balancing champions....

[sg-lulu]

LeonnidasDec 19, 20171 votes

For a 450 BE champ, Garen is extremely oppressive in lane for people that dont own many champs. The reason Garens win rate isnt as high in higher elo's because higher elos have people that know how to jungle, and people without starter champs. Something in his kit needs to be toned down, whether it be his low cd silence, w or ult