It seems like all the Caitlyn abusers hopped onto the Tristana train

We must ban all the adcs it is the only way!

And when Trist or other ADC items get gutted, the ADC mains will move onto the next strongest ADC, then the next, then the next, then the next until Ezreal is the only viable ADC in the meta. It's a repeating cycle of ADC mains abusing whatever ADC carries the hardest.

Edit: I almost expected my comment to be downvoted by salty ADC mains because of how true this is.

Another Edit: Yes, this goes the same for top laners, mid laners and junglers like what some new comments. But, I have no say in this since my champion pool for ranked is usually Yasuo, Kayn and Malzahar. And those champs are pretty niche atm. They're still frustrating to face though, there's no question to that.

Tristana counters Jhin and Vayne, it was the most obvious conclusion.

Of course, caitlyn is unplayable right now, shes beyond shit.

What did you really expect from those cait nerfs?Ofc metasheeps someone who tend to play strongest champs will abuse strongest ones...and since cait is not as strong as trist now...nerf trist other one will go and it will never ends,that's what called meta

This just in: people are going to be drawn to the stronger champs for that slight edge.

I hope that they leave Tristana alone, tbh. She is honestly a fair ADC who has apparent weaknesses and problems. :/ Yes, she has long range but it takes her FOREVER to scale into that. Her main form of safety and peel(her jump) has a long wind up and is easily interrupted and unless she gets a kill or an assist, a long fucking CD at 22 seconds. Her laning phase is super dependent on her support(probably more so than ANY other ADC) because her kit has no forms of poke or ways to meaningfully trade early; she's pretty much an all or nothing ADC in laning. Either she pops off and uses that momentum to get her through an awful midgame or she gets shoved under constantly because she has limited resources to apply pressure on her on. If she gets shoved in, she's honestly likely to take a massive CS deficit as farming under turret is damn near impossible; her E ruins any set up she might do on the minions.

On top of all this, for an AA, long range hypercarry, she's massively gated by the fact that her Q and E are CD based and mean that if they're down, her DPS is also down.

As for her countering Vayne, I disagree whole heartedly. I feel Vayne into Tristana is a skill match up and dependent a lot on the supports. PreSix, Tristana might be able to bully Vayne a bit but post six, if she catches the Tristana off, Vayne absolutely shits on her day with the stealth and and massive, critting AD Steroid. :/

Editting to Add: There is also the fact that Trist herself hasn't actually changed. She got an EXTREMELY minor buff to the duration of her Q a few patches into the season and that was because she was sub 50% winrate(like 47-48% sub) and actually needed something. I had personally had a 55% winrate on her over 200 games before she was popular; nothing to do with Tristana is an actual problem and it has everything to do with the items that are currently strong. They are items that are good on her and that she likes; she finally has a build path that ACTUALLY works well for her. Which is why I'm pretty sure that, if they address her at all, it'll be in the forms of nerfs on items rather than nerfs on her. At least I hope so. I've spent two seasons playing her consistently; I have 800k mastery points on her. I don't want to see her be Caitlyn'd or Azir'd when she LEGITIMATELY does not deserve it.

Yeah, it's almost like the meta changed or something...

All of the people willing to play the best adc available hopped over to the new best adc. Astounding lol

Nothing new, ADC and support mains are extremely flexible and tend to play meta more than other roles.

By the way, this is something that I have always found interesting and I haven't yet found a satisfying answer.

why no man 90% AS steroid that cost no mana

RIOT LOGIC ladies and gents...."BUT ITS BALANCED BECAUSE..." there was never an explain of that they just did it...

Oh did i mention that I.E got price reduced got buffed and so on? yeah now people would say "But tristana was balanced" Tristana never drop bellow 52% win ratio for 2 years now.....and now he is getting to the point that she is getting banned in higher elo...

For me the nerf she needs

Q-35/40/45/50/55 mana cost

W-Bug fix if you get hit by a stun the jump stops (Right now even if you stun tristana EVEN before the animation start it still goes all the way and she is getting stunned on the area she jump..that just stupid)

R-Distance knock back reduced by 100 units!

Easy now she is balanced...but its too early and people would be like "Not trstana dosent need nerfs hurr durr" 2-3 patches laters Riot would do the exact nerfs i suggest here and everyone would be like "Finally riot nerf that broken tristana she was getting in perma ban status in higher elo"

Trist has been buffed once since the marksmen update in 5.22(excluding the mr growth riot added to champs that previously didn't have mr growth). I think Shiv IE rush is the problem with her. Shiv and RFC being too strong combined with the cost changes have allowed adcs to spike earlier than they should and that's a problem. Trist was considered weak since 5.22 until the recent crit changes and cait being nerfed. Shiv and RFC are too strong right now

"self-peeling ADC"

let's get real here this is soloq they're not gonna trust randoms to help save themselves

theres a reason we still see lucians and ezreals even when they were obviously out of meta

you know, the same champ that did the exact same thing for like 2 years now with minimal number changes. Stfu and grow up

I don't know what people are suddenly whining about. She was always a good champ.

She's a little more difficult to cs with early in the game, but her late game has always been powerful and her leap resets allow her to make great plays.

This is commonly known as a meta shift.

My first character I ever played in this game was Tristana during that very hot sommer of 2010. And since June '10, I am playing her on and off, eventually creating this one-trick account for her. I knew when MF came out especially, I had to ditch Tristana. Her playstyle is the "old" League of Legends, when the entire playstyle fitted well into the rooster. The game was slower back then, and more fun, like a boxing fight in the Madison Square Garden over 32 rounds instead of these instant knock-outs we have today. When I ditched her because of MF, which introduced more and more features, I thought I could never pick her again but for nostalgia. All new ADC received new features that were required to hold up with evolving LoL environments, except for Sivir, Ashe and Tristana, they were the old BS.

Now they both shoved Ashe (especially the Q rework IMO) and Tristana (stickybombs per E) into the "playable and enjoyable" region and now you bitch again? Please, let her alone for once.

I can understand here and there that you dislike her, but last time I had a game where literally everyone was clipping trough or jumping over walls that I was happy I was Tristana. This game becomes more and more BS, like spinning out of control just like the European financial crisis (more and more cheap money intensifies the problem, but soothes the angst) and it's wrong to point it on one Champ. As support and Tristana main, I know how awkward her engages can be, a full rotation eats up 80% of her mana (Jump, E, Q, R) and then she's free fodder. As support a Tristana loves to jump into suicides or out of danger and letting you die. Her ultimate can give you a positioning benefit (shooting people away, e.g. an engaging Warwick or their ADC into the Baron pit) but also can screw your guys over.

Her Q is just a steroid and E clears the wave often too fast and makes it easier for the enemy jungler. Rocket Jump is an engage and coward escape move at once, suicidal yet often the big surprise moment. Her R does not that much damage (let's be honest for an "Ultimate" ability this is a joke) and can go wrong. Her passive is also an understatement: What is it? Like 1,5 Teemos more range at Level 18 when, as mentioned, everyone dashes and flies trough walls (or use blast cones)? What kind of placebo passive is that?

Conclusion: She actually has nice and reasonable drawbacks that make also sense (immersion-wise so to speak) - something barely any character in this pew-pew-pew game has anymore.