Can we tone down damage a bit?

General Esdeath ·Jan 23, 2017·37 votes·1,347 views

I don't know if it's new items or maybe I'm crazy, but I feel like back in S4 and S5 champs like couldn't pop you from 100 to 10 or less in a matter of 2 seconds with only 2 items.

18 Comments

Legacy HydralphaJan 23, 201710 votes

Damage has definitely creeped up over time with the addition of masteries and Infernal Drake, it's just now starting to take effect. All the free damage masteries give have definitely changed the game, and in my opinion, for the worse.

A Vel Koz MainJan 23, 201710 votes

I'd like to point out at level 3, Lux can do half your health with 1 E/AA thanks to Thunderlords

sobi999Jan 23, 20172 votes

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I'd like to point out at level 3, Lux can do half your health with 1 E/AA thanks to Thunderlords

That's true but it's thunderlords that's broken really. Otherwise E and AA give you opportunity to AA her back.

A Vel Koz MainJan 24, 20173 votes

That's why I said Thanks to Thunderlords. I am so tired of keystones. I'm almost tempted not to take one in order to boycott it.

idontgiveabotherJan 24, 20172 votes

Post 6 if you dodge every stun you possibly can but then get hit by that one, just that one stun, you're probably going to die or close to it. This would also be assuming the lane went fairly even so the lux isn't starved of farm ect. At least this is what I have noticed.

SkiasJan 23, 20176 votes

I remember a time when Lux was considered utility because her spells gave vision. She's like hyper burst poke now.

morris1Jan 24, 20171 votes

Please don't bring back Lux bot lane.

Bronze BonanzaJan 23, 20174 votes

Been complaining about this since last season. The new masteries are just one of the ways Rito balancing is ruining this game.

notice me Sin piJan 23, 20172 votes

there was 1 game as Lux support when i was lv6 with only item 3098 as my only damage-amping item. I somehow managed to pull off Q aa EE R aa combo on enemy Caitlyn who was at 100% health. She got 100-0ed.

sobi999Jan 23, 20171 votes

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there was 1 game as support when i was lv6 with only as my only damage-amping item. I somehow managed to pull off Q aa EE R aa combo on enemy who was at 100% health. She got 100-0ed.

That takes time and skill and it also gives cait enough time to E away or flash or heal. I think lux is perfectly fine because getting trapped in her Q is bad, it's very easily avoidable as it's slow. Also lux is early game champ, she feels so out of place late game. Once you use her burst and the enemy has lets say even 10% health left, they will most likely kill you even if you pop a shield as your spells have insanely long CD's.

CowseedJan 23, 20172 votes

ironically hasn't riot been nerfing ap items frequently. You sure this isn't just some sort of placebo effect?

Kitty ClarissaJan 23, 20171 votes

Lets not forget Syndra who can miss her entire hit but press R and you die. Poppy Who does so much damage just for building item 3025 item 3068 item 3065 item 3026 while taking like -1000000 damage to tower Also Rengar One shotting people with little items (not saying he should not 1 shot but at least make him have to ACTUALLY build items for it 3-4 aside from killing an aDC with a 1 shot with just a item 1412 )

there is more but to lazy to explain

NahDogSolRahnJan 24, 20172 votes

poppy and rengo, I agree, but syndra is meant to be that way. she is meant to be a timebomb that you need to get to and kill. I do think that damage creep is a thing and I do think that the changes to syndra since Mid-Season-Mage-Update have overcharged her, but the playstyle isn't the problem.

Kitty ClarissaJan 24, 20171 votes

I dont blame it, syndra goes through many changes and her playstyle i dont blame. a proper syndra who ults with about 2-3 orbs up will have 7 and it is enough to 1 shot someone squishy. But the damage creep makes it too easy to just blow someone up. I love the girl myself but sometimes this damage creep makes anyone deadly.

Nightcrow TeoJan 24, 20171 votes

Zed "Always Have been" Annie "Can you find my friend tibbers?" 1 shot. Lux "Snare and you dead"

General Esdeath Jan 24, 20171 votes

It was never with 2 items, and Thunderlords makes it possible for Annie to pop you with just Tibbers Q.

My Desired NameJan 24, 20171 votes

I wish this game was more like HotS in the sense that tanks are hard to kill but do little damage, and assassins do high damage but can't 100-0 a tank. Unfortunately this game will never reach that state of balance because Riot have proven time and time again they don't know what they're doing.

General Esdeath Jan 24, 20171 votes

Well we took their bad DQ system so who knows :^)