For the love of God Riot give us Solo Queue

General Esdeath ··169 votes·5,510 views

I'm sicking of being paired with pre-mades made of someone trying to carry someone who doesn't belong in gold. Sorry, but if this person doesn't understand WHAT A DORAN'S RING DOES they're not gold tier. Thanks for the free loss, let me know when we get Solo Queue back.

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Ace Access 18 votes

butt butt butt butt... that would mean admitting that they were wrong

The Deckowner14 votes

Rito will eventually bring it back, because dynamic queue is a broken system and its flaw will be more and more visible as time goes.

General Esdeath 9 votes

I hope so, I was hoping they would notice by now but I think they want this season to stay as one type of queue. Hopefully next season they change it back.

HayRoss9 votes

It's almost Garen-teed to leave by season 7. My only guess as to WHY they haven't yet is that they don't want to mess with the rankings mid season

Jorencice3 votes

Eh. From everything I've read they are keeping dynamic que no matter what.

They are determined to fix every flaw.

So if you hate DQ that much I'd recommend quitting.

Dextix LT3 votes

Yea, fixing shit, when have they ever done that properly?

Still waiting for them to "fix" the tribunal.

MonkeyMadness4 votes

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Rito will eventually bring it back, because dynamic queue is a broken system and its flaw will be more and more visible as time goes.

Riot is way to prideful to admit that DQ is a broken system. Even in that bullshit Roundtable discussion, they only accepted culpability with regard to their execution of DQ, not the core tenants of the system. They will continue to modify it the system for at least a year (probably more) with extreme favoritism shown to high elo/pro players until they stop complaining. Then that will be it. The rest of us will be stuck with something fundamentally unfair and not even really the same as the high elo system, and Riot will not care enough to pay attention to our plight.

Mautok8 votes

It is NOT coming back ... the news was last week about it

General Esdeath 19 votes

Then we tell Riot the majority WANTS it back. The game is already slowly dying, if Riot really can't see it I'm gonna be disappointed to see one of my favorite games crash and burn.

The Yetii Rider4 votes

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Then we tell Riot the majority WANTS it back. The game is already slowly dying, if Riot really can't see it I'm gonna be disappointed to see one of my favorite games crash and burn.

NA is not and will never be 'the majority'. Unless EU and KR have an issue nothing will change.

Jorencice3 votes

The game is doing just fine.

Even if every Single ranked player left the game would still be doing just fine.

General Esdeath 9 votes

I don't think it's fine, pro players are making a private server, players are quitting because Riot is ignoring the fan base, and they flat out lie and refuse to release data. That's not a good sign from a company. And if every ranked player left? That includes pro players, meaning no LCS, which is Riot's major income.

T h i c k ßøi3 votes

smart boii gotta Heimerdinger up in this mofo

Jorencice2 votes

They are making private servers because they can no longer play with 5 or 4 people in high elos.

And they never flat out lied.

Guess what company's CAN change their opinions. It's why companies now a days don't talk to their customers because if they say somethings going to happen and they change their mind (which everyone is allowed to do) they get yelled at for lieing.

And if they don't say anything they get yelled at for poor clarity...

It's literally a lose/lose for the company.

And actually I bet you they don't make near as much as you think they do with the LCS.

Do you have any idea how much tournaments cost?

Between renting the venue, player salary, prize money, equipment, techs to setup equipment, marketing for said tournament, shout casters and the other little things that it takes.

Honestly I wouldnt be suprised if they said they lose money.

General Esdeath 3 votes

They made a private server because it wasn't a fair matchup. And if you plan on scrapping SQ don't say it's coming in a month, say you're thinking about it but it's not guaranteed. And LCS is the main source of income. Several ads playing on their Twitch for 100,000-300,000+ to see? The teams bring their own equipment, Riot just provides the PC's and chairs. Tickets to get into the venue cover the cost and then some.

Jorencice2 votes

Lol k. Ads don't make that much money unless the company's fight for the right to use the ad space.

And trust me LCS is not the NFL where company's throw millions just for the chance to advertise.

General Esdeath 3 votes

I didn't say millions, you think an ad is 10 cents and that's it? And even if someone paid them $0.50 per view on the ads, that's easily &70,000-$150,000 (Assuming 50% of the viewers in each case have adblock) from each series of 2-3 ads.

Jorencice2 votes

Which would cover players salary and...that's about it.

90% of riot's income is from microtrasactions.

If you don't belive me look at clash royale a mobile game that makes close to 110 million a month off of microtransactions.

General Esdeath 3 votes

Don't forget that the estimate is ONE session of ads, there are ads (for me in the US) every 60 minutes roughly. Streams by Riot last for a while.

Dedrius7 votes

What most of the people do not understand is that "boards" are not the majority of the NA playerbase. Boards are a cesspool of baby raging about balance and random memes which is why a lot of the playerbase doesn't bother to come here and just goes to reddit to find actual league information. In recent polls Riot has found that the overall playerbase either likes dynamic queue, or does not care one way or another.

Just because the hivemind of boards doesn't like Dynamic queue doesn't mean the rest of the community minds all that much. I have always been a solo queue player and have no problem playing solo in dynamic queue.

MFTORANK15 votes

Yeah but you have to agree that boosting is out of control at every ELO , every 1/5 games i encounter someone who was clearly boosted to that rank by playing with friends and i'm silver. I could share account links but i think Its agaisnt the rules isnt it ?

Dedrius4 votes

You could take a screenshot of the op.gg or lolking or whatever and black out the name.

But I don't think boosting is that big an issue. Just because someone has a bad game does not mean they are boosted, it might just mean they had a bad game. I play a lot of Ahri and usually do pretty well with her but there have been games where I have gone 0-6 and looked boosted as hell, doesn't mean that's the case.

Troll for Trump1 votes

Just because the hivmind of Boards+reddit+ All the LCS Players+Youtube.

We don't have the ability to survey ALL the playerbase.

Dedrius2 votes

Riot has done some large scale surveys to the playerbase and the results have shown that many either like dynamic queue or are indifferent.

Dextix LT7 votes

Wrong. They asked people if they liked to play with friends.

Instead of asking a direct question if people would like dynamicq to replace soloq.

So the "results" are simply bullshit because the question was written in such a way that people would be more inclined to support one position over the other.

General Esdeath 4 votes

The poll was

"Do you like Dynamic Queue?"

A) I like it B) I don't play Dynamic Queue

Now if you can't see the problem, I suggest you research what a one sided question is.

Mister Support4 votes

There was a third option of "I don't like it" I took that poll and there were those 3 options. Don't remove one just to help your argument.

genya036 votes

DQ is a joke. Why did Riot even bother making DQ into play? That's right. Defend Riot, you pu$$ies. You know for a fact it ruined the whole point to Ranking. Normal/Draft I can understand, but to Rank it's very disappointing. Even Riot stated they won't bring it back they will lose the majority of their players. Pro players has left the DQ and went to the private host SQ lobbies. That's one movement. That's right. People who enjoy getting boosted in Rank should stay in DQ. SQ was fine, even though it wasn't a perfect system. I enjoy SQ more than I do with DQ.

eastcoastblaze3 votes

Because its ghost crawler's idea.

After ghostcrawler killed blizzard riot hired him thinking he was in the "wrong environment" and didnt get the support he needed. So they let him implement him and are fighting tooth and nail to make it work so they can seem like geniuses for giving him a job.

Sad thing is he is destroying the game, and wont get a 3rd game to ruin, no one is going to hire him after destroying 2 games as big as wow and lol

Karn Bishop3 votes

Actually dyna crap was lytes baby, that guy who got fired,

eastcoastblaze2 votes

Eh ghostcrawler has a history of trying to make games more casual. Lyte just wants to remove toxicity in counter-intuitive ways

genya031 votes

Lyte was in the right path, but he left.

eastcoastblaze1 votes

Nah he contradcted everything he said with his actions and made a complete fool out of himself everytime he had to do pr. Dude was definitely fired

genya032 votes

Oh. Then I'm seeing it wrong with Lyte. I thought he was a good staff.

eastcoastblaze1 votes

His heart was in the right place

genya031 votes

[slayer-pantheon-thumbs]

genya031 votes

I know they hired him. But WHY!

GayFluffyUnicorn3 votes

So that LoL can finally be an unbalanced piece of shit like wow. Balance has always been an issue. But since ghostcrawler arrived there is a certain pattern.

genya031 votes

Riot decided to hire him because of what? He ruined the major games in the gaming industries and now is working with Riot.

eastcoastblaze2 votes

Hes got lots of experience working on major games. Riot hired him hoping to look like geniuses because he mightve learned from his mistakes and been a huge upgrade for their staff. However he is clearly arrogant or stubborn and refuses to change his ways

GayFluffyUnicorn1 votes

Maybe riot suffers from the dictatorship of tencent and they were hoping ghostcrawler is the last nail in the coffin? I mean seriously... ghostcrawler? With him it started that every shit is broken and overpowered as fuck.

Professor Kay 3 votes

My favorite are the troll pick premades who land a vladimir jungle on your promos - "Dont worry hes really good"

Maszii3 votes

Easily ruined game yesterday, done with ranked for this season/reason ^^. Ashe/Braum/Lulu (shen jungle as well) combo with obv 3 man with voicechat vs my team with our Silver 3 jungler going teemo jungle. They also had a plat 5 toplaner which was obv boosted, but thats another problem.

Played a game again today though, wanted to end up on 0LP, not gonna happen then i guess.

Mister Support2 votes

How was it obvious they used voice chat? Did they say "hey, we're using curse voice" or something along those lines? If you're assuming off of some plays they made then you are horribly mistaken to make such an assumption and that will only prevent you from getting better.

Maszii2 votes

Ehh well for instance, i asked them and they were on TS.

Yi Bencheikh2 votes

[slayer-pantheon-popcorn] I came here to read comments

Rakans Side Girl1 votes

I'm so confused. When solo queue was a thing everyone hated it, but now we want it? I agree that dynamic queue is awful, but what's with the sudden love for solo queue?

General Esdeath 5 votes

SQ wasn't that bad, it was the fact that you were judged on wins instead of individual skill. And I'll take SQ over this crap any day.

lolptwo1 votes

If you guys are playing Dynamic Q right now and just hoping they magical change their mind about it. You are part of the problem. Don't like it? Don't play it. Dynamic Q will be the worst it's ever been right now.

It's catered to bring in younger generations faster. It's a long term investment, bring in 1 player, you're most likely bringing in his friends to start playing together.

If they don't remove Dynamic Q anytime soon, you're absolutely fooling yourself to think they will remove it later, when they've already replaced the population of Solo Q players. In addition, Dynamic Q will be more and more liked as time goes on simply because Solo Players will leave. Soon you will see these posts being downvoted, watch, and they will be tuning it more and more. Making it all less likely for them to change it.

#Want Solo Q back, stop playing Dynamic Q and expecting things to randomly change

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