The way I see it, the Yasuo community has 2 options right now: Discuss or become next Urgot

Martensitic··4 votes·812 views

Look people: The fact that Yasuo is balanced doesn't matter. What matters is, hes unfun.

Its a high mobility, low risk, ressourceless champion, that forgives almost every mistake made with broken mobility in lane, and offers little opportunity to counterplay him, while being supremely powerful without doing much.

Its a disgusting design concept that needs to get changed to something that allows for actual interaction. His mobility, his shield, or his free damage...one of the three has to be hit, and hit the way it hurts. If it was me making the decision, I would gut his mobility. Yasuo should be required to actually care about positioning in the lane, like every other fighter, and not have a zero-cooldown cheatbutton.

Yes, hes balanced, but hes simply frustrating. And Riot acknowledges this, which is why they are preparing to nerf him in 7.1 or 7.2.

This would be the perfect time for Yauso players to engage in a meaningful discussion about what can be done to bring this broken concept back in line with the games design. In doing so, they would ensure that Riot has things to work from, other than "Gut him down!".

But are they doing that? No. They don't even acknowledge the problem, instead pretending that everything is fine, because well...everyone who defends this guy, well, no hard feelings bud, but I can't shake the feeling that you are doing so for no other reason than enjoying having an advantage that you know shouldn't be in the game.


I am prepared for the downvotes by Yasuo "mains", but don't think I care much guys...the nerfs are announced and coming,a nd we even have a rough timeframe, and you get a choice here...either engage with the community in a discussion, giving Riot a way to actually make him not only balanced but fun to play for both sides...

...or continue with how you do things now, which is, deny there is a problem in the first place and downvote/ridicule everyone who says otherwise, and like as not, Riot will not merely nerf Yasuo, but actually GUT him, like they did with a lot of other champions in panicked design changes.

The decision is yours.

15 Comments

Dynikus3 votes

It's funny that everyone that bitches and moans about a champion assumes it's only yasuo mains that downvote them. No, other people downvote you because you're just whining. He's no where near as bad as 99% of the people complaining about him pretend he is. They're just lazy and don't feel like learning how to play again him, so they cry how broken he is.

Martensitic1 votes

No, other people downvote you because you're just whining. He's no where near as bad as 99% of the people complaining about him pretend he is.

Okay then. Gutting it is for Yasuo.

Because Riot doesn't share your opinion on this topic. I gave you a chance to discuss in a meaningful way, you chose to throw it in my face.

Have fun, the last champion whose fanbois did this, was Zed. Guess where he is now? All the way down in the gutter of 46% winrate.

If that is what you want for Yasuo, enjoy.

Knight Sky2 votes

the fact that you think riot could even care about what a immature kid posts on a forum i find hilarious lol

Martensitic1 votes

More than they care about the whishes of little insulting yasuo fanbois it seems:

http://nexus.leagueoflegends.com/2016/12/ask-riot-yasuos-last-breath/

Yasuo’s on our radar as a champ who’s probably too strong at present. Now that we’ve got most of the pre-season follow up work done, we’ll be putting more focus back onto general champion balance. That means for patch 7.1 (the next patch we’re currently working, which will likely go out in early January) or 7.2 we’ll be looking at champs like Yasuo, Hecarim, Syndra, etc.

Oh I whish I could see the look on your face when you read this :D

Knight Sky1 votes

lol you want the real facts kid? I just posted them on the forums.

Martensitic1 votes

All you do, all day long on the boards, is insulting people.

Please don't think I take you serious.

Martensitic1 votes

Oh, and the real facts? YOu mean the thread that got -3 in 3 minutes?

Exactly what I am talking about. Yasuo Fans denying the truth, not discussing, and therefore, the guthammer it will be for poor old Yasuo.

And you will have noone to blame for it, then yourself ^^

Sir Fuzzi2 votes

I've never had anyone deny that 'double stat' is a shitty mechanic and a shitty thing to base a champ off of.

Yasuo needs a good, long look and a series of small tweaks that change his numbers around. He could use to be less spammy and a little more combo-based, too.

Lastly, Wind Wall is super nice but I've always felt like it was a bit misplaced on Yasuo, ironically. It feels like it should be on a support. Yasuo should have something more personally defensive, and something with a little less leeway (although Wind Wall can be fickle).

I dunno, I think fixing Yasuo starts with his mechanic and I don't see it happening.

Big Lincoln2 votes

i don't play yasuo at all and I think his kit is fine. Comparing him to Urgot is terrible

he is constant interaction and positioning. By far, he is the best design of a melee carry. The fact that keystones make him a problem isn't the champion; it's the keystones and Riot's terrible foresight regarding them.

Threatening someone to "discuss" a champion just to appease the masses makes me question if this is just a clever bait thread.

TyrekGoldenspear2 votes

I wouldn't go that far.

Maybe it's just me but I found an easy way to trade with Yasuo.

Levels 1-2 when he doesn't have his windwall, simply stand to the side of the minion wave, harrass him with abilities to proc a TLD, then back off.

His insane mobility is only through minions correct? So treat your minion wave as a road he can traverse. Stand to the side of it out of his reach and throw stuff at him.

You can complain about him being unfun if you want, but it isn't too much to ask to just stand in a different area is it?

Martensitic1 votes

This is not a discussion thread about how to play against yasuo, this is a thread about how the community discusses the champion.

I thank you for your input however.

Knight Sky1 votes

Im too lazy to read all this, so im gonna give you a gold coin and call it a day item 3301

Martensitic1 votes

And here we have the exact player I have been talking about, whos reaction, or rather, lack thereof to any meaningful discussion about the topic, will lead to yasuo getting gutted.

Btw. how a human being can be actually proud to publicly display lazyness, is beyond me.

Knight Sky2 votes

someone clearly has issues lol, ive commented plenty on the fact that yasuo is fine exactly the way he is, check my forum history. Secound, to not only take it so serious but to talk me like you clearly must be an immature little brat. You take this way to serious. I was simply being humorous...as you'd say it, its human beings like you that make league toxic.

BurningSurrey1 votes

well, i saw too many top yasuo get camped hard in early and finish the laning fase 0/6 or 0/7 gettin big around 25/30 mins and carry games there after by themselves, yes i know the counterplay working the most is get him camped but doing so u lose pressure in the map and u gain nothing coz in the late game he is gonna be huge anyway, instead mid yasuo is kinda fine coz the jungler doesnt waste much time camping mid and can keep drake control, eventually he will scale anyway but if he fed hard a mid laner can carry way harder then a tanky/meta top imo and the problem is not that relevant. My conclusion i think they should nerf him yes but not that hard to make him healty, like maybe remove his double crit chance on his passive would be a nice start atleast he is forced to go full glass cannon and not a tanky bruiser who q r q 100 to 0 and adc and still has an e to catch him if he flash ....this my 2 cent

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