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I think Riot has a concussion

DeusVult··70 votes·2,143 views

And their balance team can't remember what a nerf is or what a buff is so they got them confused

Remember a while back, when they said that they were going to nerf Lucian, and they ended up giving him a manaless dash that got its CD lowered when he used his passive? Ya, that was actually a buff

Remember when they said that they would bring Zed into line by nerfing him. And then they took away a tiny bit of AS. I really don't even call that a nerf after 5 years of watching champs get dismantled by the nerfbat

Remember they said that they were opening up the jungle? And then they closed it to everyone except 3-4 champs. And they keep nerfing everything EXCEPT those champs while saying they are trying to buff other junglers.

And now, after DFG got taken out of the game, a clear nerf to Veigar and Morde, they talk about giving them buffs to make up for the loss.

And they change morde so he deals way less burst damage and has to build tanky to get his shield. Yet he still has no CC and no mobility, so its not going to change anything. He will still be as kitable as ever, and deal less damage if he ever gets to his target. Even less because now he doesn't even build damage, yet has no % health on his kit except for his ult. This is a straight-up nerf.

Or how they are changing Veigar: TAKING damage from his ult and having a delay on his E. And saying he can farm more to make up for it, yet increasing CD on his Q. As if it wasn't hard enough already to land a veigar E. This is a nerf, yet they have the balls to call it a buff

Rito, you have nerf and buff confused. Pls fix yourself

24 Comments

chumbler40 votes

As someone who has had several concussions from accidents as a stupid kid, the state of this game is not the result of concussions. It's the result of incompetence and not giving a single fuck about doing a good job.

Narasimha2 votes

You know, I still haven't figured you why you lurk around just to bash on Riot. You must be into some very strange stuff.

lojician25 votes

Riot's biggest haters are the people who used to really like this game and see what riot is doing to it. Lies and hypocrisy wear on you after a while even if you really would like to help them fix it.

WooBeeWoo2 votes

Yes this is EXACTLY how I feel and I didn't start playing until beginning of season 3.... Like I used to love a lot about this game but I play it now and its a fucking joke. With the amount of champs they have in the game but the absolute outliers in it that make playing them completely unreasonable if you want to win is absurd.

TheDráco11 votes

Riot doesnt have a concussion they have something far worse.... a Ghostcrawler...

chumbler7 votes

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Riot doesnt have a concussion they have something far worse.... a Ghostcrawler...

Game was turning to shit long before ghostcrawler came in to make it more obvious.

lojician2 votes

Before ghostcrawler riot had a problem with not fixing big obvious problems in their game but ghostcrawler has a tendency to introduce them in order to move the game towards his preferences.

Chaotic Reks1 votes

riot had CertainlyT

WooBeeWoo1 votes

I agree Riot makes enough money to not have to take blizzards hand-me-downs WTF

Kuroi868 votes

sigh

Remember a while back, when they said that they were going to nerf Lucian, and they ended up giving him a manaless dash that got its CD lowered when he used his passive? Ya, that was actually a buff

Riot clearly called it a redefining of strengths. They didn't say they were nerfing him, simply tuning his strengths and weak points. Was the tuning too minor to make a huge difference, yes. Also note, prior to the retuning, his dash had similar mana costs to what it has now, including being free at max rank.

Remember when they said that they would bring Zed into line by nerfing him. And then they took away a tiny bit of AS. I really don't even call that a nerf after 5 years of watching champs get dismantled by the nerfbat

The nerf was aimed at his split pushing and tower crushing, which did take a decided hit, not enough of one imo but it did take a hit. If you were expecting the word nerf to always turn a champ into Olaf, then you need to redefine your use of the word.

Remember they said that they were opening up the jungle? And then they closed it to everyone except 3-4 champs. And they keep nerfing everything EXCEPT those champs while saying they are trying to buff other junglers.

Kinda funny, I've seen more champs in the jungle these days and a lot less of Vi Elise LeeSin the holy mother f*#$ing trinity of the jungle from seasons prior. Every ranked game last season was one of those three. EVERY SINGLE ONE. Is the jungle harder, heck yeah. Do you have to make harder decisions and bite the bullet more, heck yes. Does it open up some diversity in the jungle? Sweet blissful Morde YES!

And they change morde-

sigh Because obviously you can only build him glass cannon or tank, no one can ever build him AP bruiser.

Or how they are changing Veigar

His numbers need tweaking, but I like where they are going. The added range makes him a little safer in lane, a little. I'd like to see a little more tuning done, maybe amp up the AP he can get just a little? Increase the width of the stun line on his E and maybe a touch more base mana. They are taking care of some old issues he had, hopefully they will tune him up slightly, I don't want to have to wait til late game before I start hurting people.

ZephyrDrake7 votes

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sigh

Riot clearly called it a redefining of strengths. They didn't say they were nerfing him, simply tuning his strengths and weak points. Was the tuning too minor to make a huge difference, yes. Also note, prior to the retuning, his dash had similar mana costs to what it has now, including being free at max rank.

  1. The nerf was aimed at his split pushing and tower crushing, which did take a decided hit, not enough of one imo but it did take a hit. If you were expecting the word nerf to always turn a champ into Olaf, then you need to redefine your use of the word.

  2. Kinda funny, I've seen more champs in the jungle these days and a lot less of Vi Elise LeeSin the holy mother f*#$ing trinity of the jungle from seasons prior. Every ranked game last season was one of those three. EVERY SINGLE ONE. Is the jungle harder, heck yeah. Do you have to make harder decisions and bite the bullet more, heck yes. Does it open up some diversity in the jungle? Sweet blissful Morde YES!

  3. sigh Because obviously you can only build him glass cannon or tank, no one can ever build him AP bruiser.

  4. His numbers need tweaking, but I like where they are going. The added range makes him a little safer in lane, a little. I'd like to see a little more tuning done, maybe amp up the AP he can get just a little? Increase the width of the stun line on his E and maybe a touch more base mana. They are taking care of some old issues he had, hopefully they will tune him up slightly, I don't want to have to wait til late game before I start hurting people.

  1. The nerf really did nothing other than have him take maybe one wave or two longer to take out a turret... no one complained about his split pushing and him having all the tools he has splitpushing is the least of his issues when he can poke, waveclear and do all these crazy things while being relatively safe.

  2. well after nerfing the hell out of Elise to the point of making her unplayable then it's obvious you won't be seeing her and you could always play any of the champions before. Now? Why would you pick anything but J4 and Lee? you can pick Vi as a secondary jungler and Nid is seeing some play there... that's about it. All other junglers are pretty hurt with this new jungle... except those that are only usable in low tiers since they can just pubstomp everyone (looking at you shaco)

  3. Morde is going to deal less damage overall and the trade-off? be slightly tankier... doesn't change the fact that he has no cc or mobility so people will just ignore you and take out the real threats in your team unless they see you out of position so have fun playing your slightly tankier Morde (if you can even get enough gold to do so) while adding nothing to your team other than this Garen wannabe that really does nothing but beg you to be stupid enough to attack him and not his teammates that he has no way of protecting.

  4. Veigar doesn't need to wait till late game to hurt people right now, what type of useless build are you doing that you need to wait until late game to dish damage? Veigar will need more than numbers tuning in order to be even remotely close to being as useful as he is now and he isn't that great now so that should tell you something

What Is Smite4 votes

I think Morello should be fired, look at his summoner profile and you notice that he doesn't play League at all whether it is normals, ranked, ARAM, Dominion, or even the featured gamemode. Between his last two games played there is over a 3 month difference meaning that he is not suited to even be head of the balance team anymore.

Crett6 votes

[{quoted}](name=What Is Smite,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=vcKGA9Bi,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2015-02-14T20:29:36.317+0000)

I think Morello should be fired, look at his summoner profile and you notice that he doesn't play League at all whether it is normals, ranked, ARAM, Dominion, or even the featured gamemode. Between his last two games played there is over a 3 month difference meaning that he is not suited to even be head of the balance team anymore.

Actually, many rioters have alternate accounts they use to play league

Killer X 121 votes

Yup, ones that the community doesn't know since so may people (probably those like "What Is Smite" would just bother them lol

Rrett4 votes

Most of the rioter I assume play on their private playtest servers.

Dengeden4 votes

Remember when they actually went through with it and nerfed Lucian? Of course you don't. You know how every Zed just split pushed 24/7 post laning phase so maybe the nerf was a good start that would't completely destroy him? Nope You know how Morde never ever burst anyone down anyway unless he was 20/0? Maybe focusing on his identity as tank more than as a useless mage could be a good idea? You know how he's dominating PBE? Nooope

The white lies about the Veigar changes are so stupidly dishonest that I'll stop with the rhetorical questions. Yeah they're reducing the ratio (1.2 -> 1.0) from his ult, the damage remains the same and the cooldown and mana cost are reduced. Oh no! Now D-Cap rush Veigar is useless... which it was anyway. His E was impossible to hit anyway unless summoner 4 or item 3117 (this was, incidentally, the strategy that high level Veigar players had going for them, much diversity) and they're increasing its range and reducing the mana cost and cooldown (hint, hint this is a trend). Now it's the zoning tool that it was against competent players. EDIT: If he played like standard mage, I mean. His Q gets the exact same treatment, except it has a higher CD post rank 3 (by .5/1 second, mind you) and now is a skill shot which stops at the 2nd target hit. Considering that his W also got CDR and mana buffs, yes this is a buff to his farming phase.

But by all means, keep cherry picking from the changes you don't like to make them look like a nerf.

Fauxfire3 votes

But they never said it was a buff. You know, I said the exact same thing about Ahri during 5.1

Think about that for a moment.

Junkο13 votes

Ahri got a giant MS boost on a 4 second cooldown late game and she now deals damage without needing to land her charm. Those were buffs.

Morde got everything on his spells nerfed and Veigar now only has 2 spells, nerfs

OyddAWqJ5r3 votes

Well. They didn't want to nerf Lucian, they wanted to redefine his strengths. So they did a slight reworking that made him even better at what he does but worse at what he doesn't.

Zed yeah, they still needa fix.

Jg too.

Veigar needed that stun nerf for a loooong time. Damage nerfs tho were completely unecessary albeit skillshot double hit Q is cool (but damage decrease isn't).

I like the Morde changes, I've been asking for them for awhile now. It should've been like that from the beginning.

Killer X 123 votes

I bought Lucian as soon as they made that dash "nerf" lol. Zed changes were actually pretty significant, it doesn't stop him from killing you, but it did nerf the previous style of Zed play. He just kills you with different items now, more AD and damage on his abilities instead of his autos. I agree that the jungle is harder, but all the different types of jungles items did allow more people into the jungle. Then they nerfed Trailblazers and the soft resets on jungle camps...which fucked a lot non-traditional jungles. I like the Morde changes, but i think they just need to think a little more about what he'll need to build to be effective.

Jungle Lux God2 votes

I think the changes to Morde are actually really good because his build has a larger array of options (spell vamp and Rylai's are no longer required, and every tank items is significantly better on him), and will most likely survive a whole lot longer in a teamfight than he does on live. Morde players are going to have to change up their builds because of the changes, but Morde will be at least a little bit better than he is on live.

MeesterMoo1 votes

You have your facts wrong with morde

Vahlen1 votes

I thought last season was bad in terms of balance.............this season has proved me wrong. Riot is at this point is completely clueless as to what direction to take. They dabbled in the jungle a bit, failed miserably. Fucked around with Mana, failed again there........they're just clueless.

Deathless81C1 votes

Here's a giant heads up that Riot is headed by idiots. They put in place an automated system so that people trolling your games can troll you even more with false reports that Riot never actually checks.

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