For the first time since I started in season 3, I don't want to play League.

General Esdeath ··3 votes·797 views

Between autofill and lethality, I just don't want to play. I don't know WHY Riot would buff lethality, it was bad enough, but now? With new item 3147 passive? 106-360 damage for an auto after not being seen?!? This is literally the most free damage I have ever seen. Walk into a bush, fog of war, walk back to lane, go invisible, You took away wards, then make an item that gives bonuses for NOT being seen?!? Like, I feel depressed over this shit. This is my favorite game, and in one single patch I don't want to play. I'm even more upset by the hotfix of Singed after people who don't read patch notes complained about him being OP and not knowing how to play against him, but lethality, the God forsaken stat that SHOULD NEVER have been added, is OK to run around. You could have just made armor pen apply to spells, like magic pen (the stat that I don't see anyone calling OP), but nope! You made a late game stat that gets shifted to being a snowball stat. We're back to the inital issue that made people hate Zed Riven Jayce Pantheon Rengar Talon Khazix in older seasons. We're literally back to step 1.

https://i.gyazo.com/15b782a9995439bd70bf14b6a080baad.png

This is totally fine, for Jayce to do OVER 3 TIMES MY DAMAGE after losing lane, being outfarmed, but it's OK HE GOT DUSKBLADE SO IT'S OK. Remember S4 Jayce build? item 3070 item 3035 Brutalizer? When he was a late game champ who needed to build mana? Nah, forget intended play styles.

And before someone gives me the "If it's so OP just play it for freelo hehe xd git gud" line, no thanks. I've ridden the freelo train once and it's not fun. Once it goes away, you're stuck in a rank where you're not good enough.

27 Comments

C9 Squeeky 3 votes

Yeah um lethality is worse than flat armor pen because you start with only 60% of the value at lvl 1, or did you forget?

General Esdeath 1 votes

It's also cheaper, comes with more options for secondary stats, and scales with YOUR level, meaning snowballing is now an avalanche. Or did you forget?

C9 Squeeky 2 votes

You get what, 0.39 actual armor pen per level per lethality item? that isn't that good. Yeah Duskblade got better build path, cost, passive etc. but lethality scaling off your level is still worse than flat armor pen in S3-6.

General Esdeath 1 votes

Being lower by 1-4 is not worse, especially when it's cheaper, has more options than just flat damage (like the utility of item 3147), and comes in a time where most armor items have been nerfed. When was the last time you saw item 3068?

Doozku2 votes

Armor pen already applies on spells, infact it has always done this.

General Esdeath 1 votes

I said "ONLY" on spells.

1374342 votes

Share the game (because it wasn't done on the posting account, just a ton of Viktor and Brand games) so we can actually verify comments like Jayce lost lane or was outfarmed. Because looking at your previous Tryn ranked games I'm not so sure the issue isn't you...

Katie Killjoy1 votes

This is the account my dude. You can check this history. Can't screencap because names are in it.

1374342 votes

Ok found it. Tryn was 2/6/2 with 216 cs while jayce was 8/2/8 with 188 cs. We are surprised jayce did so much more damage to champions because...?

Also looking at it more saying Jayce "lost lane" is completely wrong. He was staying even with Tryn, killed tryn at least 2 times, and tryn's tower was actually destroyed before Jayce's. Jayce didn't even have his first death until 22 minutes into the game when he was 3/0. At that point Tryn was 1/3.

CrazFight 2 votes

Da hell, pretty sure season 6 (maybe 5..) were the worst seasons, and season 7 is finally getting back on track.

EndlessSorcerer3 votes

Season 5 was great in the period between Cinderhulk nerfs and the Juggernaut/GP/Fiora updates.

Season 6 was Dynamic Queue which just screwed ranked for the entire season.

Ben Sharpio1 votes

so what happens now?

General Esdeath 4 votes

We travel North, to meet Dekar and get Corsair headsets.

Ben Sharpio3 votes

ok ill admit that was pretty fucking hilarious

LostFr0st1 votes

I understand why they buffed it, what I don't understand is why they buffed it and then removed the level interaction which separated it from armor pen. Why double buff it?

KMS Bismarck1 votes

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I understand why they buffed it, what I don't understand is why they buffed it and then removed the level interaction which separated it from armor pen. Why double buff it?

Because dealing less dmg if your target is weaker than you is stupide maybe?

General Esdeath 2 votes

So we're back to the initial way it was? Great balance team, Riot. We did a full circle.

KMS Bismarck2 votes

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So we're back to the initial way it was? Great balance team, Riot. We did a full circle.

Nop its still scalling armor pen and not flat armor pen. Remember when you could get 20 armor pen withghostblade at level ~8?

General Esdeath 1 votes

Scaling with your level* you get back to it pretty fast

LostFr0st1 votes

Fine, switch it and then assess. They have another patch before World qualifiers anyways. Don't switch it and tamper with item 3142 item 3147 item 3134 item 3252 item 3814 the same patch...

EndlessSorcerer2 votes

Didn't they just reverse the per-level interaction?

They changed the armor pen to be based on the user's level to discourage ADCs from using it.

LostFr0st1 votes

They did that and shifted the stats of the items themselves. Especially item 3147 .

Either do one or the other, not both in the same patch...

EndlessSorcerer1 votes

Considering I quit for several months due to the previously lethality meta and I've just started getting back into the game, I'm not overly enthused.

I'm just thankful my preferred champion pool can screw over assassins.

KMS Bismarck1 votes

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Considering I quit for several months due to the previously lethality meta and I've just started getting back into the game, I'm not overly enthused.

I'm just thankful my preferred champion pool can screw over assassins.

It was meta for only 1(or maybe 2?) Patch since last november lmao.

EndlessSorcerer2 votes

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It was meta for only 1(or maybe 2?) Patch since last november lmao.

The Lethality meta was around February 2017.

I believe it lasted from Patch 7.2 to Patch 7.5 or shortly after, so it was for at least three patches and approximately two months.

Keep in mind that this was during the time when offensive damage-amplification masteries were grossly overtuned, worsening the matter.

highnivia1 votes

Other people manage to easily climb without abusing lethality in any way aswell. I got from gold 3 to dia 4 this season mainly playing yasuo fiora and ekko so basically no lethality whatsoever and if you have problems with autofill just take a toplane champ your decent at and play him support for example i play sion support everytime when i get autofilled. And if current toplane is pissing you off do you even remember laning against lulu and lissandra? You literally couldnt even move against that sht and if the enemy jungle came you were just dead. Be happy cus lethality is easily counterable unlike earlier toplane metas. Just forget your fckin pride and rush tabis its pretty much free lane.

General Esdeath 1 votes

Holy old thread batman!

Also I never said you had to abuse it, I said it's not fun. It's the opposite of fun. I miss goofy matches. Also tabis was nerfed, remember?

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