It's only function is to make sure Mordekaiser bot works. Riot could give this Passive to any other Champion in the game and they'd end up with an 80% Win Rate as an ADC as well. No f*cking shit I'm going to lose lane to someone who is several levels ahead of me.
Dextix LT8 votesWell, its CertainlyT rework, what did you expect? Fair and balanced kit?
SEKAI10 votes[{quoted}](name=Dextix LT,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=vVxLZrlV,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2015-09-07T15:52:28.651+0000)
Well, its CertainlyT rework, what did you expect? Fair and balanced kit?
Funny how his only non-overloaded champ (outside of Darius, somewhat) is a rework of someone else's creation. And instead of being broken mechanically, it has garbage mechanism but with OP stats. It's like CT is intentionally making the balance team to Eve Morde into oblivion's oblivion.
Funny how current Morde, the biggest BS rework ever seen in League's history, came from such a "high profile" (lol who said that) designer like CertainlyT.
I had thought Xypherous and Scruffy were bad, but man, they are all like saints now.
Hella Kaiser6 votesFunny how his only non-overloaded champ (outside of Darius, somewhat) is a rework of someone else's creation. And instead of being broken mechanically, it has garbage mechanism but with OP stats. It's like CT is intentionally making the balance team to Eve Morde into oblivion's oblivion.
Funny how current Morde, the biggest BS rework ever seen in League's history, came from such a "high profile" (lol who said that) designer like CertainlyT.
I had thought Xypherous and Scruffy were bad, but man, they are all like saints now.
the old morde was more balanced :/
ABlueQuaker4 votesPre-rework Mordekaiser was almost perfect. I always thought he just needed some sort of Movement Speed. Something as simple as a Furor/Rage Passive on his Q, or Movement Speed that Scales with his Shield Bar %.
Tannhäuser Gate1 votesin b4 "we want yas to be rue to our initial design, so you now get full xp off of minions you last hit, this is a third passive that is tied to his E. To balance this, yasuo cant cast E on the same target until they die 15 times"
Remlap12234 votesIt's not a CertainlyT champ without something bullshit and unnecessary in its kit.
4 second magic damage bleed that stacks and scales with AD? Check.
Double crit chance for reasons? Check.
Sticking literally everything good from every support type into one champion? Check.
A free dash on auto attacks because tying it to an ability would make too much sense? Check!
Poske1 votesIt's not a CertainlyT champ without something bullshit and unnecessary in its kit.
Darius passive does physical dmg (Hence why people build blackcleaver
yasuo has 190% crit value cuz of that. And thats not mechanic which makes him op. The "double crit" is bad in a way that it limits yasuo as a champion and forces him into an awkard build. Any yasuo main would prefer tankier yasuo without that irelevant passive
Thresh is overated (Except for lcs)
Kalista is overpowerd because you can support her immensly .. you can even help her farm.
Remlap12233 votesDarius passive does physical dmg (Hence why people build blackcleaver)
That was after Scruffy yanked Darius away from him. No, Darius used to do a fuckton of magic damage that was impossible to itemize against early game, so you'd burn flash at like 100 health and still die four seconds later due to having his passive fully stacked on you.
Poske2 votesThat was after Scruffy yanked Darius away from him. No, Darius used to do a fuckton of magic damage that was impossible to itemize against early game, so you'd burn flash at like 100 health and still die four seconds later due to having his passive fully stacked on you.
I know it used to be magic dmg
But this is even stronger
Q > black cleaver armor WHAT?
Remlap12231 votesSee, I consider the new passive worse because 1, I belive the scaling was toned down, and two, its easier to itemize against physical than magic damage. Yeah, a passive armor shred is powerful, but its nowhere near as annoying as his old passive was. I have yet to die from Darius' passive now.
Daedalus8714 votes[{quoted}](name=Sub HeroCro,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=vVxLZrlV,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2015-09-07T23:23:05.555+0000)
Darius passive does physical dmg (Hence why people build blackcleaver
People built Black Cleaver for a lot of reasons. Even when his passive did magic damage.
yasuo has 190% crit value cuz of that. And thats not mechanic which makes him op. The "double crit" is bad in a way that it limits yasuo as a champion and forces him into an awkard build. Any yasuo main would prefer tankier yasuo without that irelevant passive
People can build Yasou Tanky. No one is forcing him to buy crit.
Thresh is overated (Except for lcs)
Lol, no. Only thing he is missing is a heal.
Kalista is overpowerd because you can support her immensly .. you can even help her farm.
You can help any ADC farm. Not every ADC has infinite dashes though.
Poske1 votesPeople built Black Cleaver for a lot of reasons. Even when his passive did magic damage.
People can build Yasou Tanky. No one is forcing him to buy crit.
Lol, no. Only thing he is missing is a heal.
You can help any ADC farm. Not every ADC has infinite dashes though.
Blackcleaver was bad for darius before this change rofl Actually any penetration item was bad for a champion with inbuilt penetration true dmg and magic dmg
Yes go try tank yasuo in diamond. I would be the first one to flame you ... Tank yasuo is as bad as adc velkoz
Thresh also lacks mr per level an actual ultimate no stupid windups . Dont get me wrong I love the champ but he does have clear weakness which is supposed to be delay
You can help any adc farm but you can literally farm for your kalista. Thing is none does that . However once you come on pro level and in lcs .. when people do that she becomes insanely overpowerd
What I am trying to say supports you see arent supporting kalista good enough She ll get nerfed mainly because of worlds not because of 99,999% of community
Daedalus8711 votes[{quoted}](name=Sub HeroCro,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=vVxLZrlV,comment-id=0001000000010000,timestamp=2015-09-08T18:54:40.428+0000)
Blackcleaver was bad for darius before this change rofl Actually any penetration item was bad for a champion with inbuilt penetration true dmg and magic dmg
Yeah, let's ignore his Q, W, AA,s and that it gave CDR, MS, AD, Health, and pretty much every stat Darius could possibly want.
Yes go try tank yasuo in diamond. I would be the first one to flame you ... Tank yasuo is as bad as adc velkoz
Tanky =/= tank. Get's a couple of damage items and then some mixed offensive/defensive items.
Thresh also lacks mr per level an actual ultimate no stupid windups . Dont get me wrong I love the champ but he does have clear weakness which is supposed to be delay
Don't all ranged champs lack MR per level? And a slow that brings everyone down to the cap isn't an ult? It even has decent damage for how much utility it brings. And while he may have a decent delay on his skills, there is pretty much no readablity. You know where a Blitz/Nautalis hook is going to land because they face the direction of the skillshot. Thresh however, doesn't.
You can help any adc farm but you can literally farm for your kalista. Thing is none does that . However once you come on pro level and in lcs .. when people do that she becomes insanely overpowerd
What I am trying to say supports you see arent supporting kalista good enough
Anyone with Targon's can help any ADC farm.
She ll get nerfed mainly because of worlds not because of 99,999% of community
That's probably pretty accurate.
DemaciaClown1 votes[{quoted}](name=Sub HeroCro,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=vVxLZrlV,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2015-09-07T23:23:05.555+0000)
yasuo has 190% crit value cuz of that. And thats not mechanic which makes him op. The "double crit" is bad in a way that it limits yasuo as a champion and forces him into an awkard build. Any yasuo main would prefer tankier yasuo without that irelevant passive
Did you know? Yasuo's crits deal 180% damage.
http://ak-hdl.buzzfed.com/static/2015-02/1/20/enhanced/webdr08/enhanced-32005-1422840611-40.jpg
Poske1 votesDid you know? Yasuo's crits deal 180% damage.
http://ak-hdl.buzzfed.com/static/2015-02/1/20/enhanced/webdr08/enhanced-32005-1422840611-40.jpg
True didnt know that
Raid Boss Morde1 votesImagine if Thresh had a heal?
SorryBoysImLes1 votes"We're updating Relic Shield so that it's passive works with Thresh's auto-attacks, seeing as how it is such a popular item on him we see no reason to not give it this update."
SEKAI1 votes"We're updating Relic Shield so that it's passive works with Thresh's auto-attacks, seeing as how it is such a popular item on him we see no reason to not give it this update."
Eww.
I guess he needed that because it is such a popular build on him right, logic anyone?
Sometimes I just hate exceptions, especially when it's clearly a display of favourisn.
When it's written to be melee only, then it's melee only. Otherwise you reduce his AA range and not let him keep both. Why would do do that?
I bet if people had play him top more, Hydra would have another exception too. Friggin hell.
Raid Boss Morde1 votesRelic Shield's passive doesn't work with Thresh though. He can't use the execute part because he isn't considered melee. The heal portion of the skill does work though.
SEKAI1 votes[{quoted}](name=Raid Boss Morde,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=vVxLZrlV,comment-id=00010001000000000000,timestamp=2015-09-08T03:55:37.536+0000)
Relic Shield's passive doesn't work with Thresh though. He can't use the execute part because he isn't considered melee. The heal portion of the skill does work though.
That's still pretty BS if you ask me.. he shouldn't even be compatible with it considering he isn't melee, it just doesn't work that way.
But I guess relic shield now reached a wider range of buyers. Still.
Cute Vegan Boy1 votesKinda like what they did with Kalista's autos just do 90%. Like, what?
ABlueQuaker2 votesNah, only thing Riot would possibly do to it is remove it if they ever decide Mordekaiser Bot shouldn't exist anymore.
DragonShea1 votes[{quoted}](name=A Blue Quaker,realm=OCE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=vVxLZrlV,comment-id=,timestamp=2015-09-07T11:41:30.408+0000)
It's only function is to make sure Mordekaiser bot works. Riot could give this Passive to any other Champion in the game and they'd end up with an 80% Win Rate as an ADC as well. No f*cking shit I'm going to lose lane to someone who is several levels ahead of me.
I agree.
