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A buff for Darius: his ult refreshes on kill but can't be used on the same target for 120/100/80 sec

IsIsGankedParis··37 votes·3,534 views

Basically, it would be what live Darius is but if he kills his laner with his ult, he will have it up but HE CANNOT USE IT ON HIS LANER WHEN HES BACK IN LANE UNTIL THE COOLDOWN IS OVER ON THEM. Not the 20 second extension.

This would be a huge buff for top Darius with teleport and jungle Darius as they can safely secure kills with his ult and still have it against other targets.

Think of Yasuo's E, you can't dash on the same guy for 10 seconds, that's how this ult would work.

Cdr would reduce the frame in which you can ult the person again.

Edit: Fixed first sentence

Edit 2: Clarity purposes heres how it goes.

You dunk your laner and secure the kill, your ults cooldown is refreshed. 40 seconds later in lane again you get in a fight with your laner and the enemy jungler, you can use the ult on the jungler but NOT on the laner. In order to show this for both sides there would be a debuff on the enemy he has recently killed with his ultimate that won't let him cast it on them until the cooldown is over.

I made this on reddit, Link: http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/2vln1g/a_reasonable_buff_for_darius_on_his_ultimate/

48 Comments

brad12 votes

idk

could be strange if you kill the top laner with your ult, 30 seconds later the jungler ganks you, and you dunk the jungler but cant dunk the top laner because it hasnt been 2 minutes

what the general agreement is that people would like to see full refreshes at rank 3 ult

dunk is my life1 votes

no i prefer the op proposition.

IsIsGankedParis2 votes

By rank 3 the full refresh doesn't have the biggest purpose and think of it this way with your scenario, on live Darius he wouldn't have his ult at ALL when he gets ganked but with this he can dunk the jungler and maybe kill his laner.

It's a buff but he really could use this buff.

Woook3r1 votes

I will accept this on the condition that he gets 35% armor penetration AND magic penetration on his E passive. lol

Davids Uploader4 votes

For those that keep saying this is a nerf, HOW IS THIS A NERF!? LIKE, I REALLY DONT SEE IT

Woook3r3 votes

did you teleport back to lane and get dunked on and killed before the timer even ran out? is that what this is about?

Pucking Purrfect2 votes

You mean nerf? lmao

BeatzBoyFTW2 votes

....this is a nerf. Why restrict Darius's ult on one single champion once?

LilxPaprika1 votes

{quoted}

....this is a nerf. Why restrict Darius's ult on one single champion once?

Its not restricted. You'd of had ur ult on CDR anyways in the current form. Its down only on 1 or however many youved killed recently ... as opposed to down on all. I mean in any case its your fault if you decide to fight when its down just as it is currently. Just prioritize champs you haven't recenlty ulted in team fights.

Just pretend as if u can't use ult for 80sec on anyone and its as if nothing ever changed. Its dynamic in that its up to you to use it as you deem fit. Adds flexibility

BeatzBoyFTW1 votes

Ohhh you mean a separate cooldown for each champions? Cool I guess

AHeroNamedHawke3 votes

{quoted}

....this is a nerf. Why restrict Darius's ult on one single champion once?

It would function exactly the same as on live, except you can dunk other kids as well

Cindikle2 votes

Why do people keep say this is a nerf? This lets him get the reset he used to have without making it a problem in lane. Which is why it was changed. Since Riot obviously has the tools to do this now(maybe they didn't before they nerfed him).

Personally don't think it's needed. He still has problems handling ganks. But I see no problem with this change.

Blainezy2 votes

BUFF DARIUS?! Are you new? Lol.. He's so broken right now. He definitely doesn't need a buff.

5 Stacks GG6 votes

i think you're the new one scrub get good before posting here

A Miss Fortune2 votes

Darius needs a nerf if anything. Tanky, easiest top laner or at least one of the easiest champs in game to play at the moment, tanky, high damage. He's basically Akali reborn into a male verison with a bigger axe.

Guy Fox Teemo1 votes

He's also EXTREMLLY easy to kite, and CC. Making him only good against melee brusiers

A Miss Fortune1 votes

That doesn't change anything. Any champions can easily be CC'ed and are sensitive to it, Darius isn't really that sensitive to it though. And yeah a lot of champions are easy to kite, Darius would be too if he didn't have a pull that does damage while pulling them right up to him.

Sammystorm2 votes

His pull does 0 damage

blueberrypancake1 votes

He's has follow up...

IsIsGankedParis1 votes

He has no tank steroid, he's 100% item reliant for tank stats....

Undeadmerlin2 votes

I don't think OP fully understand how the ult works.

You Have to kill the target with the ult for it to reset, and once it does, you get 20 seconds to kill more pples.

If you dont kill anymore then it goes on the full cool down. Unless you get your ult at lvl 1 and the laner immediately tps back into lane for you to full combo him, it isnt possible to ult somebody twice.

Vellich0r1 votes

with the way he wants it done it would be possible. It would be a full cooldown refresh

AkabaneKun2 votes

LOL darius jungle ganking all lanes in a row with a true dmg nuke and dot, cmon stop drinking.

hashinshin3 votes

This getting upvotes is why higher ranks need more upvote power.

Doumz2 votes

If his ult would give back mana when it refresh it would seem better for me, no way you can spam it without going oom

AkabaneKun1 votes

{quoted}

If his ult would give back mana when it refresh it would seem better for me, no way you can spam it without going oom

item 3800 with this he can, jungle darius with glory could spam ganks in all lanes with a true dmg nuke easy.

Btw what darius needs is this imo: Mov. speed 340 --> Mov. speed 355.

LilxPaprika1 votes

I don't think there is a nerf taking place here... Its almost as though he doesn't have a CDR on ult. Except on the guy you killed which you won't see anyways for another 30 seconds at least. your ult would be down against that target in either case for the same period of time. The only thing is having to have an indicator on every enemy champion to show when you last noted which could destroy his pentakill like potential.

It would have been down anyways in the current form. So long as you wait 80 seconds before you team fight every time. Its just nice to have ult available in between.

ccseancc1431 votes

He means that his ult still gets the on getting a kill, but, now he doesnt have the restriction of having to using his ult in 10 seconds? or will expire and go on cd. Basically Akali ult but, for his dunk. i think this would make him op so no. He would basically always have his ult up if he is fed.

Eyrgos1 votes

+1

Terff1 votes

you should really say that instead of only a 20 s period of time to use it again that it gets full cd reset. its quite confusing otherwise.

agbudar1 votes

this would be very good

Fisk1 votes

I mean this isn't bad but what about later in the game when he really just wants to finish off squishies with it?

HeWolf1 votes

I'd like to see the current refresh of the ult's CD, but that this refresh can be ALSO obtained with assists. I think that uncle Darius feels sad because he can't dunk multiple people AND watch them die from the bleeding at the same time. If he could dunk somebody to 100 HP and let him die from his passive and then have his ult ready again to make it a bloody pentakill, he could be somewhat more useful than he is now (it's hard to KS Kalista lategame).

Left Hook Larry1 votes

Please don't buff Darius. He's already am extreme lane bully and is fine where he's at.

Izbiz1 votes

What if I initiate with ult, there is a disengage, and another trade in 20 secs.

Can I then use it twice on the same target after 20 secs if there is no kill?

IsIsGankedParis1 votes

You wouldn't have the ult ready to use because that's how his ult works, a kill gives a refresh, no kill puts on the full cooldown.

Izbiz1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Darius Only,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=vV7WBOZR,comment-id=000f0000,timestamp=2015-02-12T03:16:36.423+0000)

You wouldn't have the ult ready to use because that's how his ult works, a kill gives a refresh, no kill puts on the full cooldown.

I don't exactly like the idea then.

It would look very silly to have 5 120/100/80 circles around champs. It works for the other champs because the cd is much shorter.

Without the circles, how would you know exactly when you can or cannot ult someone? I certainly can't keep track of 5 more cooldowns.

Spikeman711 votes

"A buff for Darius: his ult refreshes on kill but can't be used on the same target"

So you're saying that we can't ult a dead target that we already killed?

Sinlaire1 votes

it's cant use again within a time limit. if they die and cme back, say level 6, ~20 second respawn and teleport. they're back in lane in ~25 seconds. The ult timer would prevent darius from using it on the laner again for another 40-60 seconds even though his kill reset already gave it back to him to use again.

Spikeman711 votes

Ahh got it.

Captain Aishi1 votes

I'd love to see this happen for one reason... you keep track of that per target cooldown with a debuff on the enemy champion 'got dunked'

aLawfulFalafel1 votes

the thing that concerns me is how this is supposed to be displayed, my ult is up but i can only ult 2 ppl on the enemy team, how do i know when my others are ready?

DEN15 5121 votes

{quoted}

the thing that concerns me is how this is supposed to be displayed, my ult is up but i can only ult 2 ppl on the enemy team, how do i know when my others are ready?

For other similar abilities (Yasuo and Udyr E), there is a circle that slowly disappears when the ability can be cast on that target again.

Celeste Benal1 votes

Not no. But hell no.

Blackwindy1 votes

I would like to add that he should still keep the 20 seconds buff, but it should be changed that he uses no mana at all in those 20 seconds.

AFK Push1 votes

I can see how this could help darius, but I think he just needs a slight rework kit wise. What he really needs is a slow or something that increases his ms some, because he gets kited way too easy. This is why I would usually prefer to play Garen over him any day. And technically, even Garen suffers from the same problem, but at least he gets way tankier than Darius thanks to his W and his passive.

The Ellimiist1 votes

Does Darius really need any buffs. I don't think so.. This is also only an early game buff... kinda and late game id rather have the 20s refresh to ace enemies.

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