Darius is confirmed to be more op than Nidalee by having a 26 second pull at rank 1 compared to her 3-5 second pounce.
This is why Darius buffs take too long, whenever somebody loses to Darius they lose their fucking minds saying he's op and broken.
Fuck me for not knowing that people are too dumb to exploit Darius's weakness of being probably the easiest champ to kite in game.
metaworldpeace10120 votesI hope you dunked on that bitch ass all game.
The5lacker81 votesIt was a Nid player. Are you really expecting anything other than incompetence and impotent rage?
Only Play Nid22 votesWow. Hurtful.
The5lacker49 votesWhen the trend changes, I'll stop pointing it out. But about 90% of the Nid players I've played with or against have been toxic as shit.
Ariel the Cruel16 votesIndeed. She's called the "cancer panther" because all her players are perfect saints.
. . . And her lack of ICBM's.
Anidan19 votesJust me in top lane...
Then I get nuked from goddamn Australia by her, then she leaps on a friggin' jet plane, crashes into me and steals my cookies from my smoldering remains.
Screw the "cancer panther," as you put it and so will I from now on.
évy6 votesthis is so true i died will you attend my funeral
Asdeft3 votes[{quoted}](name=Only Play Nid,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=spo1sE07,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2015-03-22T18:29:40.171+0000)
Wow. Hurtful.
Hey man, it is just a stereotype. Nid players tend to be toxic not only in gameplay, but in chat. If you arent, more power to you :)
Raxicor3 votesYeah but toxic players aren't only limited to nidalee. It just happens that she is popular right now. I could say the same about toxic jinx but its the specific player's fault not the entire pool of players that play that champion.
Stephenizgod3 votesLike seriously... they play an overloaded champ and pubstomp everyone and think they are skilled, then they fight someone who destroys them and that champ just must be broken cuz they so skilled... "all i need to do is hit 1 out of 10 spears and i win lane that there is skill mate, you working around all my bs abilities and actually killing me? now that is bs..."
Nid players man...and Kat players...
this doesnt apply to actually good Nid and Kat (lolz) players... you can always tell the difference by how aggressive the bad ones are, they are 0/9 and still just blindly rush in.. "tenth times the charm or so they say" yea no its not get gud scrub.
Anidan10 votesI love playing Diana against Kat players. Wanna go all in? I got a shield and plenty of dueling power. You want to ult? Enjoy my pull. You wanna run away? Lunar Rush.
There is no hiding from the light of the moon. 
Stephenizgod8 votesLol i pick Malzahar against her. Wanna jump on me? Well now you are suppressed and dead :( too bad for you.
As long as their jungler doesnt like camp me all game i usually can win this lane.
Auryiel10 votes
Time to slaughter!
Hola gato!
... I'm out.
Yes, Malz is Mexican. Shhhh.
Stephenizgod14 votesThe problem with this is 1) he isnt Mexican actually ;D and 2) Usually when Katarina says she is out, she really means she is going to bot lane to pick up a double because apparently pinging 100 times and good warding doesnt alert them enough they are about to be melted...
Important Note to All Bot Laners: If you are constantly getting killed bot lane and wondering how she got so fed, well its probably you feeding her... so pay attention and stop blaming your mid laner. I am pinging and you should have decent enough wardage via your Support. I can not Shunpo, so chances are she is going to kill you before i can help.
Devack The Holy1 votesI know the feeling. Then you get that one bot lane that know what they're doing and instagib her the SECOND she starts her combo.
: Okay, Malz is kicking my ass in lane. I might as well head bot for easy kills.
: Hello.
: F*ck this, I quit.
Stephenizgod1 votesLmfao I once saw someone pick Volibear Support only because of Katarina. Everytime she would Shunpo Ult on Graves he would flip her into the turret. After the third time she stopped going bot.
Devack The Holy1 votesYeah, nothing's more fun than dumping on Kat.
Nothing's worse than being the Kat who just got dumped on.
Stephenizgod1 votesThere is no winning with Kat, you are either hated for playing one of the dumbest champs ever when you win and you are called the worst piece of garbage trash who should uninstall when you lose. People really hate Katarina and Katarina players lol, although to be fair every single Kat ive fought has either bragged about how good they are or complained how broken whatever champ im playing is when i beat them :I...
Aboylova924 votesTrue story. Had a nidalee in a recent game complain that she lost to an Annie and how she's "easy mode op." I pointed out how easy nid was, and only had to worry about one skill shot with infinite manaless escapes, to which she replied "GG I'm talking to a retarted (she used that spelling) person."
PalPlays1 votesIt was a Nid player. Are you really expecting anything other than incompetence and impotent rage?
They expect to get an easy win by playing a Jack of All Trades: Master of All champion. To get anything other than a snowballed lane means that they MUST be facing a broken champion with no counterplay. These are the players who Riot listens to when looking to give compensation buffs.
The5lacker2 votes"But Nid has no CC and has to use mana so she's super balanced!"
Ser Garland23 votesHere's the thing about Darius... he's like an ant lion pit. If you get to close to him, you instantly die unless you have some quick escapes and even then chances are he's eaten half of your health.
You can't... buff that. Nor can you nerf him, because in the meta, just about everyone has a level of mobility and poke that they can use against him.
If they ever did touch darius... he would need a rework, that means if he wants shorter cool downs, or mobility, he'd lose some of his damage.
IsIsGankedParis11 votesHe can't insta kill, his damage takes a little time to ramp up depending on how far ahead he is, level difference, and if youre squishy or tanky.
Hinagiku3310 votesIf I'm playing a squishy melee like Fiora, I'd rather lane against Nidalee than Darius any day of the week.
Darius might take a couple seconds to kill me if he's not fed, but he also gets to build tanky and sit in/near the creep wave to punish me for daring to get close enough to last-hit.
I get that he counters melee champs - but goddamn I'd rather dodge spears or die than deal with him, at least Nidalee is squishy and will die easily if I catch her...
Junkο2 votesIF you catch Nidalee, and gl with that
5 Stacks GG4 votesuh no you can easily buff that, example giving him a full reset at lvl 16 and refund the mana cost on kill. this is what riot plan to make as buff for patch 5.7 and in no way people can say he doesn't need it or game him too strong
Hinagiku3319 votesI think he means you can't buff Darius' laning...which Riot isn't.
5 Stacks GG2 votesoh my bad then
Rinky Dinky3 votesDarius actually takes about 2-3 seconds up setup before killing someone, the exception being early game squishies.
YossarianSensei7 votesHow is that any worse than stuff like Riven that will go to you and kill you instantly?
Considering there are tons of champs that will kill shyt instantly, I think a Darius buff is overdue
Enkidusmurf12 votesDon't take it too hard. She was just pissed she couldn't one-shot you.
Teridax689 votesTo be fair, 
does tend to have an overwhelmingly large amount of damage in lane against champions who can't easily stay at a distance from him. 
is a spectacularly poor example of this, since she can easily kite, poke and pounce well away from him, but if you're someone like 
or 
there's not much you can do against him.
That ult buff on the PBE seemed really nice, though. Hopefully, it'll return in some form or another.
Xyrne1 votesGaren poops all over Darius. He wins every trade just because he can back off and passive heal and go back in. Plus he doesn't have to worry about mana costs. So even though his damage is lower he wins by attrition.
Captain Aishi12 voteseverytime i've played darius against garen, it felt like there was a loud minion worth 300gold moving around my opponent-less lane
Stephenizgod8 votesThe same thing happens when i beat Katarina with Malzahar. I always get "Omg Malz is a bs champ and requires no skill" ... its like uh hello pot, here is kettle...
People only see "Omg Malzahar can suppress someone for 2.5 seconds??? WHAT IS THIS BS" but what they fail to see is all the counterplay to Malzahar. Unlike a certain someone he cant smash his face into the keyboard, look up and see a triple or penta kill... If anyone says Malzahar is bs that is because you dont know how to fight against him, its quite simple since he cant instantly warp away or CC you without CCing himself.
Sooko5 votes[{quoted}](name=GayBar PornStar,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=spo1sE07,comment-id=,timestamp=2015-03-22T18:18:51.805+0000) of being probably the easiest champ to kite in game.
Woah woah woah! I agree with your post but... There are some unbearably kiteable champions that suffer vs range a lot more than Darius (pun intended)
Riv x Kobe5 votesHow the hell does a Nid lose to Darius in lane? This makes no sense.
You must be really good with Darius and/or the other guy must be really bad with Nid.
Mal the Red2 votesDarius is broken.
Not OP Broken, broken as in bugged, centered entirely on his passive. But yeah, people will bitch.
5 Stacks GG10 votesyou make no sense, Darius isn't Broken or OP Period.
AbsoluteSadman4 voteshis e being a magic tractor beam that ignores my flash is kinda buggy and broken.
Anidan6 votesHis pull being able to wrangle you back in is from the same mechanic that allows your friendly neighborhood Ezreal to escape Blitz grabs and Lux to continue ulting despite CC: Cast times.
At the beginning of the pull, you're targetted by the pull to be pulled to a location directly in front of Darius. If you flash mid-pull animation then you will be brought back because while Flash is instant and that's cool and all, that means it does not override the targetting mechanism of Darius' cast timed pull because Flash already got you where you needed to go. After that, Darius is still casting, and so at the very end of the cast, you go to the location marked for you since you didn't have an overlapping cast time that would continue after Darius' to get you out of there, like, say, Ezreal can. With Ezreal's blink, because it has a cast time, everything about Darius' pull applies to his blink, except instead of bringing enemies already marked by the ability to Darius' face, Ezreal's blink will ensure he ends up at his targetted destination.
In short: It's not a bug, it's a feature at this point. Unless the cast time is removed, it will not change.
Rinky Dinky7 votesHIs passive is not broken, his pull is broken.
That passive bug is not a bug, its a visual error where the banner will disappear before the final tick sets in.
5 Stacks GG4 voteshis pull isnt broken wrf u talking about?
Rinky Dinky1 votesThanks for the downvote.
Good thing I have video evidence
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YrSytGmpG_0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tAdxC27VNZw
All of these things are still 100% possible still.
5 Stacks GG8 votesI don't see anything "broken" here lol The tp in fountain has been patched 2 years ago btw
Rinky Dinky2 votesYou don't know the definition of broken then.
Seems like you are one of the plebians who think broken, toxic, and OP mean the same thing.
Begone, plebian trash.
Edit: Also, this bug was re introduced in season 4, when riot made "Fixes" to cone shaped abilities.
43161549_DEL7 votesactually...this is impossible to do anymore... so please "plebian" leave
ArbiterOfTruth2 votesThe only thing I can think of is that they are talking about when you flash/move out of his pull range, while he starts the pull animation, only to end up being pulled. It kind of sucks.
Anidan3 votesYeah, though that's because the pull already marked its targets at the beginning of the cast, so if they leave but were targetted by the pull, they get pulled right on back. Just one of those weird quirks. Similar to how Ezreal gets out of random situations, like a blitz grab, with his blink. He has a target destination set at the beginning of the cast, then the blitz hook goes out, then Ezreal's cast animation finishes and he goes to his targetted location as per the initial command.
Cast times are funny stuff, man.
