Some CDR Items that could be added (all with passives)

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item 1058 + item 3191 + item 1033 + Gold

100 AP 15 MR 15 Armor 10% CDR Unique Passive: After dealing spell damage gain 20 Armor and 20 MR for 3 seconds.


item 1026 + item 3028 + Gold

80 AP Unique Active [Toggle-able] : Upon casting a spell, gain 10% (15% ?) cooldown reduction, increase your spells mana cost by 7% and gain 15 ability power for 4 seconds, ability power can be stacked up to 3 (or 4?) times, and mana cost stacks up to 4 times.

(item 3028 's passive in "reverted" when the item is combined, making it increase mana costs, making it a transitional item for mid-lategame, unless you choose to combine it early for burst of ap at the cost of sustain)

item 1058 + item 3114 + Gold 100 AP 10% CDR Unique Passive: Whenever you deal spell damage gain mana equal to 2% of the damage dealt.


item 3136 + item 3145 + item 1052 + Gold

100 AP 10% CDR 15 Magic Penetration. Unique Passive: Whenever your health reaches critical levels, gain a shield that absorbs 200 damage for 5 seconds, 45sec cooldown. Unique Passive Lich: After casting a spell, you next damaging spell within 4 seconds heals you over 3 seconds for 30% of the damage it deals, 8 seconds cooldown.

7 Comments

Lao Fu the Tiger2 votes

I feel that Ryze may abuse your second item xD

Sinestri1 votes

Yeah, Ryze would abuse all those items honestly. The first one isn't as bad but the second and third. He would be getting so much mana and health back i think he would be un killable with chaining cc on him till oblivion.

Irelia Bot1 votes

The first one could perhaps work as more of an AP rageblade were you to make it give 5 armor and MR for 5 seconds for every ability landed on an enemy champ. Max of 6 stacks

The secodn and third seems like they would be major abuse cases that solve mana issues better then athene's currenlty does with no real down sides in the big scheme of things.

The last one might work but also seems like it could become overbearing on champs like Cass Pewrhaps if it were to be kinda like a karthus passive where when you get killed you have 2 seconds of being about to cast abilities that might work in place of the shield.

You have to remember that if the abuse cases are not adressed we will have another IBG ezreal slowing the whole enem team. That is the first example that came to mind but there are some others...

Nekusen1 votes

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The first one could perhaps work as more of an AP rageblade were you to make it give 5 armor and MR for 5 seconds for every ability landed on an enemy champ. Max of 6 stacks

i thought of that, the problem is rageblade stacks with auto attacks, this depends on spells, so it's very unlikely you'll be able to be constantly casting spells to keep it up.

The secodn and third seems like they would be major abuse cases that solve mana issues better then athene's currenlty does with no real down sides in the big scheme of things.

the second item doesn't grant mana, it kinda consumes it as it increases the mana cost of your spells. Athenes gives more mana, even while out of combat, it's made from cheaper items, gives MR and extra 10% cdr.

The last one might work but also seems like it could become overbearing on champs like Cass Pewrhaps if it were to be kinda like a karthus passive where when you get killed you have 2 seconds of being about to cast abilities that might work in place of the shield.

Nekusen1 votes

Have in mind that buying these items would mean less space for item 3003 / item 3042

About the second item, i changed it a bit so the mana cost increase stacks up to 4 times, but still, even fully charged, the second item gives ryze way less AP than item 3003 .

The third item wouldn't be very useful to Ryze having in mind he ends up with an endless supply of mana from his other items, buying this one would be redundant.

Nekusen1 votes

due to some confusion, just clarified how the second item works, it just has 80 AP and the active.

Nekusen1 votes

thoughs?

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