As a player that uses many champions

Honestly I've just been using one page for the most part and changing it in lobby every game as necessary.

The 20 rune page limit is a bigger problem.

How do you use that many with the new pages? I understand with the old ones but the new ones are just so generalist that it's easier to just have general pages and modify them a small amount in champ select.

As someone who also uses many champions I only need one mastery page.

Riot literally made the mastery page so easy to fill out during champion select.

I have 18-12-0 18-0-12 12-18-0 12-0-18 0-18-12 0-12-18

Adjust as needed

Agreed

Ive gotten used to making tiny changes to them on the fly, maybe thats what they want?

Keystones are just a wee part of it, fury/sorcery, double-edge/feast, etc.etc. i use at least 3/4 combinations per keystone in average (i play every role with a variety of champions)

I only have one mastery page now, since choosing what you want is fairly simple. It takes me <15 seconds to clear and make a new page, so I do that every game. Also this guarantees that you'll never choose a wrong page.

Overkill much?

If it's really a problem for you, just use one mastery page, and change it each game. It forces you to keep in mind what your mastery pages even are, and lets you make smaller changes for your match-ups.

Use three pages, one for each tree. Then edit whichever in lobby. It takes about 4 seconds to click and switch the small masteries, and it's actually really neat.

I find with the new masteries being so simple this season i just have 10 mastery pages that I just change a little bit depending on the situation.

I agree I thought the old masters gave us like 25 pages (which still is not enough) and I've had to mold a lot of my masters pages to fit multiple Champs (ahri/lux/ect.)

I can't think of a technical reason riot should lock us at 20 mastery pages when they have like 100+ Champs and you don't pick them in game so it can't be a data limit or lag issues.

The new client will have a way to reorganize rune and mastery pages

i got 16 mastery pages, its enough for every pick i get and the goddesses know i play a lot of champs, filler main =D

....(and a experimental adc with grasp of the undying, just for fun)

Yeah, even when cramming many champion together into using a single page I barely have enough pages for all my champions.

Also, because this cannot be stated enough, allow for the moving of pages so we don't have to re-edit everything when all we want to do is move one page amongst many.

That's why you use 19 pages and then use your final page which you change on a game to game basis if none of those other 19 are appropriate.

Who remembers changing your only rune page every game because you only had what (3?) anyways.

I use about 10 or so for a list of champions that I KNOW I'll be needing a page for, and then I set aside one page for changing during champion select. You have to be fast, but it's the best thing right now

It's not really a problem if you just go back and delete the pages that are identical

most of my ap champions use the same 1 or 2 pages. All of my assassins use the same page

I have two mastery pages for each keystone, each using a different sub-tree. When I get a champion, all I have to do is decide which page I want, then I go through both trees and do any flips I think will benefit me. Takes only a few seconds to do, especially since I don't think a lot of the choices are especially hard...

How much do you really change between all of these champs? If it's a matter of changing the key stone that's a max of 9 pages. If things get drastically different.. there's another 11. Most champs of certain skill sets would use the same masteries so there is really no need for that many. I have I believe 14 going right now, I only use 6. Need to go in and delete a bunch that are similar.

I have "quick-pages" for my top 19 champs.

My first rune page is titled "Extra Page (Urgot)", for example, whenever I want to play Urgot. It'll change whenever I want to play a champion that's not in my top 19.

I would really enjoy color code for mastery pages. So i could recognize my pages for mages, tanks and ADCs without clicking on them.

Honestly, i have no more than 8 max. They are versatie enough to be used on all champions. Wth is the problem here? 20 pages is too much for me.

...There's 9 keystones- even doubling that (cause two paths to get to any given keystone) is only 18- 20 is more than enough to cover all of your pages.

As for organizing- you have a drop-down menu that lists your pages. If you have so many pages that it takes you longer than 5 seconds to pick the right one then you might want to have less pages or be clearer in how you name them.

I take a screen shot of the ones I like, kind of painstaking but only for really worth while ones

I play many champs (I play a lot of aram and never reroll too), so what I do is i only have one mastery page, and I change it at the begginning of each game depending on what and how I intend to play

yeah, but many times you are forced to make a quick-pick and you don't have enough time to fill your masteries.

at least if not giving us more mastery pages, at least a way to organize them better, like rearranging their position or the ability to tie pages to certain champs, kind of like you do with custom item sets.

hey i know how you feal i have 16 and im constabtly changing pages when i play mostly 3 roles top sup jungle such a pain when you get those awsome vs pages that are situational

you honestly only need 3 pages and switch during the champ select rofl