Leaving the caster minions with ~10 health shits on her ability to CS during the mid to late game, pretty hard.
Updated with a video proving everyone saying that it does clear the caster minions wrong. I have a 12 minute Ludens and I've used all 6 Dematerializers on the caster minions in this video, and it does not clear them. It leaves them with just enough health for my caster minions or allies to steal them.
Ephixus5 votesthen my champs also should get buffed just to one shot minion wave.
Yenn3 votesthen my champs also should get buffed just to one shot minion wave.
Pretty much every mid either has the ability to one shot the wave or clear it with two short cooldowns.
The problem with leaving it at 10 health is that rogue caster minions will sometimes steal your CS, if not your team mates. You basically can't get much CS while grouped unless you're incredibly fed or rushing Deathcap as second item.
letsfeedtogether3 votesNo. thats not a good reasonto buff a champ. and she does 1 shot them i used to all the time
Yenn1 votesNo. thats not a good reasonto buff a champ. and she does 1 shot them i used to all the time
'i used to all the time'
Okay, well she no longer does. You have to go Dematerializer, and even then, the casters are left with 10 health if you don't use 5/6 of them on caster minions. If you need Hourglass as your second item, you're shit out of luck, because it doesn't provide enough AP.
And yes, that is a good reason to buff a champion. Being shut down from CSing well during the mid game, which is very crucial, is kind of game breaking. It's also compounded by the minion speed buffs making it so you can no longer hit the entire wave as it's moving, since they walk through the area too fast.
letsfeedtogether2 votes
Yenn1 votes.
You have to go Dematerializer, and even then, the casters are left with 10 health if you don't use 5/6 of them on caster minions. If you need Hourglass as your second item, you're shit out of luck, because it doesn't provide enough AP.
letsfeedtogether3 votes 1 shot minions even with 2 items. last time i checked (right now) :)
bluefire mark 23 votesIf anything she needs a nerf with how annoyingly free she is. Low cds, high range, shields, cc, very high burst, high aoe, passive damage just in case she has to auto attack, even more CD if she kills someone, a fairly easy to hit e which slows people so you can land q better. Honestly they should remove the cooldown reduction on r if you get a kill. Having a lux ult and kill you then two seconds later ult your adc is just unfair and unfun.
letsfeedtogether1 votesLow cds LATE GAME
no mobility.
so squishy.
dont even try saying she's good. lux is so bad right now
LordGeovanni1 votesIf by late game you mean first item then yeah low coodlowns late game. so squishy with the largest shield in the game barring a full ap shen ult once every 3 minutes.
bluefire mark 21 votesIf she's so bad right now why is her KDA always positive when i see her? Because she's such a safe, free and easy champion with a two second one shot ultimate. I'm not gonna argue that shes top tier overpowered needs nerfed so badly, but she is unfair. No mobility sure but has three ways to stop you from getting or killing her before she buys items. Her cds are high early but then she rushes a ludens, one shots you with a q/e/r and then walks bot lane and kills both of them with the same combo 10 seconds later.
letsfeedtogether1 votesOh ok. If i every time i see corki he has good kda he' broken?
bluefire mark 21 votesNo, because he isn't one shotting you from across the map and then doing it again 10 seconds later
letsfeedtogether1 votesbut you just said champs are broken cuz when you see them they have good kda
bluefire mark 21 votesWrong. I said if she is so bad why does she always have a good KDA? A bad champion isn't going to be fed every game. That alone doesn't mean they are broken.
letsfeedtogether1 votesevery game. how many times di you play against her? EVERY GAME? and + thats for real the same thing
bluefire mark 21 votesWhat's "for real the same thing?" I Did not say two things. Secondly, i played her probably 11 games now and she's only been negative KDA in one game in which my team completely stomped.
letsfeedtogether1 votesWrong. I said if she is so bad why does she always have a good KDA? A bad champion isn't going to be fed every game. That alone doesn't mean they are broken.
i said every time i see corki he has a good kda means he's broken, you said NO
that for real the same thing.
i played her 60 times and stopped cuz she's so weak,
bluefire mark 21 votesLegit not the same thing. I said KDA ALONE does not make her broken and you mentioned only kda. Pay freakin attention. Argument over, this is getting nowhere.
letsfeedtogether1 votesYOU JUST SAID IT DOES
bluefire mark 21 votesNo. I. Fucking. Didn't. "If she is bad why does she always have a good kda?... that alone doesn't mean they're broken." I can be a nasus one trick and nasus could be the worst champion in the game but i could always have a positive kda. doesn't mean he is op. there's an exaggerated example. KDA doesn't mean they are op ALONE. Fucking listen. If you can't understand this then just don't reply.
Warlord Rhinark3 votesI can't tell if this is sarcasm or not.
xDelightifyx2 voteshowly cow u ment she need - 50 dmg in every single spell.
LordGeovanni2 votesbuild ap, auto attack the minions, you have options.
KFCeytron1 votesLux is Riot's experiment on how much they need to buff a mage with poor waveclear before that champ is viable.
Moonscourge1 votesJust buy a Blasting Wand and your trouble will be gone.
Plus even after the range nerf you can throw an E out before the wave arrives, hitting at least 1 melee and the 3 casters guaranteed before they meet in the middle.
Yenn1 votes[{quoted}](name=Snake of Avarice,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=vJakko1d,comment-id=0007,timestamp=2019-02-09T09:06:35.967+0000)
Just buy a Blasting Wand and your trouble will be gone.
Plus even after the range nerf you can throw an E out before the wave arrives, hitting at least 1 melee and the 3 casters guaranteed before they meet in the middle.
[{quoted}](name=Stars Shaper,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=vJakko1d,comment-id=0008,timestamp=2019-02-09T09:07:45.330+0000)
if you max E and have no AP item there is a huge issue and it isn't with Lux damage.
You both clearly have no idea what you're talking about.
https://i.imgur.com/SSxwzal.gif[]
I have a 12 minute Ludens. The caster minions do not die unless the Ludens proc kills them, in which case I need to only get the caster minions, or it might proc on the melee minions and not get all the casters. Side note, I also used all 6 Minion Dematerializers on caster minions, not just 4.
tl;dr you're all wrong, Lux's E does not one shot the caster wave unless you're severely ahead and starting Deathcap as your second item. I'm not sure why you're even posting about this.
Stars Shaper1 votesSo? You have to AA once in order to get them how is it different from Xerath or any other mage needing 2 spells to do the same?
You save a CD but have to AA. It's claled a trade off.
Yenn1 votes[deleted]
Stars Shaper1 votesThen manage the lane better or get preventive vision so you don't get jumped on. And talking about CDs, it's not like Lux has a really low CD Ult that can clear an entire lane later in the game... You are facing what is called a weakness which you have to work around and you have ways to do so.
I though in Diamond you would know the basics.
Stars Shaper1 votesif you max E and have no AP item there is a huge issue and it isn't with Lux damage.
