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As someone who mostly plays support, I fucking hate Sightstone

RedCyclone··4 votes·734 views

Fuck this item, stinking up my inventory with crappy health stats, and ONLY that Taking up a slot in my inventory what could be made for a much better active item or an item with actual good stats Being mandatory to every support even though the fucking thing forces you to go back to base to refill the wards, no exceptions you GOTTA RADAR Forcing us to start our real builds 10-20 minutes into the game AFTER we have our gold item and precious Sightstone and on about that gold item, we have to use that too, so that's 2 slots being eaten by mandatory requirements for supports (but gold items are not so bad on their own as they do their job well and have 3 DIFFERENT OPTIONS wink wink nudge nudge)

Seriously screw sightstone, screw the instant report I get for not building it in my games when I support and screw the crappy non use stats that everyone but tank supports make something out of...

11 Comments

Craft Zeppelin2 votes

Actually as a person who plays carry supports who pings and destroys by sheer focus, I agree on this opinion. I play velkoz support and well...i get two charms and a green and pinkward on my 1st recall and.... all of my itemslots are filled XD

Sorgklaan2 votes

I really think supports having the primary burden of warding is a relic of the past, as is the sightstone. The sightstone was originally released in a period of time where supports were little more than ward mules. I think the game has evolved enough past that bullshit that riot can finally just rid the game of that bullshit and make warding a true team thing rather than forcing a support to spend gold on fucking sightstone.

Nobody wants to buy the sightstone, it's a boring as fuck item, but you have to.

Marthian1 votes

Except they made the vision game much cheaper for each team (250 g is chump change and gives you close to 3 wards on the map.) and people are still not upgrading.

Lugg2 votes

Sightstone wouldn't be bad if it granted something else other than some health. Some mana regen, CDR, etc.

YossarianSensei1 votes

That slot would've been occupied by normal wards anyway, unless you're one of 'those supports' Nidalee

RedCyclone1 votes

Maybe I am, Maybe I am not Maybe I am just salty that I only really have 4 item slots to work with in the game, and one of those is still spent on boots

Mew Goes AD1 votes

In theory, you can still support perfectly fine without building sightstone. Its purpose is just to make wards easier.

However, if you wanted to just straight-up buy green wards all throughout the game, I don't think anyone would care just as long as their support is giving vision of the map in some form or fashion.

That would have to be a pretty quick game though for buying 75G wards every 3 minutes to be more efficient than an 800 gold single buy.

IcyPepper1 votes

I don't think anyone would care just as long as their support is giving vision of the map in some form or fashion.

How come people are often concerned with the support's warding, but there's so much less discussion about the other four's?

I've seen people threaten to report supports for not buying SS but buying wards, but never buy wards themselves. It's like some kind of double standard.

Bârd1 votes

Watch some support gameplay from before sightstone was released.

Back when if a support was lucky to get more than one or two completed items, because they had to keep 20+ wards on the map at a given time for control.

If you dont want to buy sightstone, fine.

Waste your money on sight wards, instead of the stats and FREE WARDS granted by sightstone.

Xenos111111 votes

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Watch some support gameplay from before sightstone was released.

Back when if a support was lucky to get more than one or two completed items, because they had to keep 20+ wards on the map at a given time for control.

If you dont want to buy sightstone, fine.

Waste your money on sight wards, instead of the stats and FREE WARDS granted by sightstone.

You're forgetting this was before trinkets existed too.

Xenos111111 votes

I pretty much agree with you. As someone who has mained Thresh since season 3, I have always favoured getting an extra tank item (and no, I don't count 400 health as being a tank item, it's basically an incomplete Giant's Belt) over Sightstone, and it has generally worked out favourably. My early game build order on Thresh is always item 3096 -> item 1054 -> item 1001 -> item 3082. Those items give me enough sustain and tankiness that I can usually go all-in on the enemy bot lane and win the trades, often picking up a kill or two for my ADC. And if we don't have enough vision and my trinket is on cooldown and the lane is pushed, I'll just hang back a bit behind my ADC and if I see the enemy jungler I'll immediately throw out my lantern and get him to safety, which prevents either of us from dying to ganks 90% of the time (assuming my ADC is smart enough to click on my lantern).

Then my late game build will consist of 4 tank items and often one on-hit item (item 3091 or item 3153, depending on how much money I've got), and I'll be pretty much unkillable while being able to kill their ADC by myself in a couple of seconds.

Basically, I feel like the extra combat stats I could get without building Sightstone help win the lane, and go on to win the rest of the game, more often than the extra vision helps control objectives and avoid ganks. And at level 9, upgraded yellow trinket is pretty much a slotless Sightstone for 250g.

That said, on a support with less peel and disengage like Soraka, I would still definitely get a Sightstone because ganks will have a much higher chance of killing either me or my ADC (or both) compared to if I'm playing Thresh, and being able to clear enemy wards with a Sweeper is a big help for taking objectives or ambushing.

TL;DR If I'm playing a support with heavy disengage potential, who can usually save both myself and my ADC if we get ganked, I won't take Sightstone. If I'm playing a support with bad disengage, Sightstone is definitely a worthwhile buy.

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