So I played Cassiopeia for the first time today....

Saixos··5 votes·558 views

...and my team won. We won badly. But I didn't enjoy a single moment of it.

Before this game I had no previous experience playing as cass, so I can't speak for any past versions of her. Having started only late season 3, I've encountered her quite rarely, so I'll be speaking only of the current cass. She's not fun to play, but she's incredibly powerful. I finally understand what all of you cass mains complain about, I hope to dear god that this kind of thing won't happen to my Diana and Vayne.

I don't feel her passive at all, it's just numbers. Her Q and W only exist to setup her E for damage. Her Q is extremely lackluster in general. Her W is actually my favorite part of her kit, it has a nice slow and it feels right. I don't even think of her E as a spell, it's just there. It's like if I'm playing an ADC, it's just like an autoattack, except it's a spell. There is absolutely nothing special about it. As for her ult, it's too unreliable for me to like it as a player, but I like the idea and theme behind it.

Also, for the record, there is one thing in the past changes where I thought "Bad idea, riot" without even having had any real experience with cass. I much preferred her old splashart http://imgur.com/OpUzzbF over her new one.

I know that riot prefers its players to provide ideas along with impressions, as while "THIS CHAMP IS STUPID" provides a point to change, it doesn't give any feedback as to HOW to change it. So I've done some research and brainstorming, and came up with a mandatory change and an optional change for riot. As I've only come up with it today, I expect it to be far from perfect, but perhaps it's a starting point.

item 2050 Mandatory change: COLOR the part of a champions HP bar orange/purple whenever a debuff is applied to them which deals DOT. Orange is for burns/normal DOTs like bleed,ignite , liandrys, Nidalee traps. Purple is for any sort of poison, Singed, Cass, Teemo, Twitch.... They said that cass has oppressing gameplay and clarity issues because of damage over times. Well guess what, CLARITY. In yo face, DoT. Seriously. I can't think of a single reason NOT to do this.

Ideas for cassiopeia: Do note that these are some pretty major changes, it's just something I've come up with without any numbers that I think would fit to her identity as a poison mage while allowing her to keep her impressive damage, but requiring more skill than just spamming e once a poison hits and using item 3116 to prevent escapes. I decided to use her W as a base spell, as it felt right to me when I played cass.

Q: Complete change to "Poison Mist": Slowmoving (somewhere between sivir q and morg q, width of sivir q) skillshot which travels in a line, poisoning everyone which stands in it. Lingers for a second or two before disappating. From a visual and "feel" area, I imagined this to be similar to Ahri's charm in the "A new dawn" cinematic - note how it lingers in front of Ahri's face before vanishing. Think of it as singed's trail, except instead of following singed, it follows a skillshot in a line. W: Same as currently E: Same ability, different effect: When cast on a poisoned target, rips poison effect from the target, converting the damage over time into instant damage and has some base damage and bonus damage when cast on a poisoned target on its own When cast on poisoned target, cd resets to 1 second. This would make her e still deal massive damage, but it's far more linked to cass's poisons.

Finally, her R would be changed to stun if the enemy champion is poisoned instead of if it's facing cass. Reliability, counterability, more interactions with poison, fits to her theme (Forces poison to solidify for a second/two, preventing the foe from taking action)

I fully expect this rework to be terrible, or simply not that good. All I wanted was an example of something that is better than what we currently have live, and this is imo.

Side little wall of text you can read if you want a bit of a rant on riot's state on the boards: Over the past weeks, I've been slowly losing hope. I've heard riot hear our plea's and our efforts, our ideas. But I haven't seen any action being taken. Less rioters posting? Ghostcrawler said he'd try to get people to make more of an effort. I've barely noticed any real change. The same goes for everything else. And primarily my issue is that it seems that our ideas are not being considered, which is completely the opposite of what was stated above, that they want ideas along with feedback rather than just our impressions without reasoning.

The best zed change idea I've heard on these boards, changing his q to work like lux's q, would be absolutely brilliant in my opinion and fix my main and only problem with zed. That idea had no reply, was on the top of the "Hot" section, and was never implimented. At the very least, I'd have liked to know WHY that change wasn't added. I have a desire to become a game designer in the future, and I've already taken a lot of steps in that direction. I thought the idea was brilliant, but instead his attack speed was changed. I understand how his attack speed change was a nerf, and it's more significant than some might realize, but I don't understand why that change was chosen over such a great idea.

Simply from an educational perspective, I would like to know why ideas which are good enough to reach the top of the boards are not going to be implimented, at least not at the moment. Perhaps in the future they will, rioters can't see the future after all. It would help us all come up with better ideas, ideas which can be useful to riot, ideas which will support more riot-player interaction as the boards are educated and become smarter and smarter in their ideas and feedback.

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Terff1 votes

Seems like new cass is reaching yorick levels !!FUN!!

WeedySeaDragon1 votes

I'm pretty familiar with Cass mid and I do have to agree with these. Her main source of damage now is her abusable E. Her Q ratio use to deal insane amount of damage. She honestly had a balanced kit, her E still had the CDR on a poisoned enemy, and her passive helped her conserve a lot of mana. But now her whole kit revolves around setting up over and over again for her E. It used to be land a W, land a Q for a lot of damage and get as much down with more Qs and Es. Now its basically a single Q and about 50 Es to do the damage that she used to do with a simple WQE combo. It does honestly feel a lot more boring.

Entrances1 votes

Stun from ult due to poison? Sounds too crazy. It'd probably spike her power too early imo. On a champ where the objective is to stack passive, what would be the point. You'd already be a huge threat once you've got a blue buff or tear at lvl6. If your change to her Q happens does she still get a speed bonus? I can't see playing a Cass with no speed buff. Not many mages have a that kite to survive mentality, I really adore that about her. But even without the speed boost I think it's too strong.

I guess your main complaint is that Cassio's other abilities other than E have no kill potential. For me in late game if someone stands on my W for 3 seconds they find themselves being eviscerated. I've killed plenty of people who were at half health during a team fight just because they didn't realize they were standing on the W. In early game I consistently make people use up pots with Q poke. I usually don't have enough left to finish them off safely. I feel like this keeps me balanced, as I have to manage my mana and focus on last hitting with E vs just spamming my lane opponent and sit there manaless when I don't get the kill.

Everything about her set up to be a late game champ. Low mana, needs to stack tear (seraph's is also part of that sweet sweet kite mentality for me). Needs to stack passive. Aim to be the queen of death by 25-30 minutes or risk having to draw the game out to 40-45 minutes to have a chance at winning. Maybe you make the E more unique by placing the speed buff on that spell instead of Q? I mean E is really where most your spell vamp comes from (kite

Raptamei1 votes

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The best zed change idea I've heard on these boards, changing his q to work like lux's q, would be absolutely brilliant in my opinion and fix my main and only problem with zed. That idea had no reply, was on the top of the "Hot" section, and was never implimented. At the very least, I'd have liked to know WHY that change wasn't added.

Because you are not important enough to demand either new features or an explanation. There are 40 million people like you, Riot has better things to do.

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