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Why does Kalista not have E execute indicators?

Saixos·8/19/2016, 5:44:15 PM·178 votes·9,710 views

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  • Kalista is currently very weak for anyone that isn't extremely high elo/a highly dedicated main, and has a premade support

  • Kalista currently has the lowest winrate out of any ADC

  • Kalista is very very frustrating when she's strong, and shouldn't really be buffed (too much)

Giving Kalista E's execute indicators would help everyone that doesn't play her all the time a lot, and barely change her power for those that do. Considering Kalista has always had the problem of being OP in high elo & competitive and then garbage in low elo, a change like this should be the first step towards making Kalista a more balanced champion.

I know that everyone on the boards hates Kalista, but honestly, Kalista's current state is an absolute joke. Making her easier to play without really making her stronger wouldn't suddenly make her OP or bring her back into the meta, it just means that eventually if Riot look at her again they'll find it easier to balance her and make everyone happy.

176 Comments

Meep Man8/19/2016, 6:32:26 PM42 votes

I feel like this would be a really good change to bump up Kalista's win rate on people with little games played as her without actually buffing her. It might also surprise people how few or how many spears it actually takes for Kalista to kill someone.

Reaper Soraka8/19/2016, 6:57:58 PM26 votes

I had 41 spears on scuttle crab and it was down to 500 health. I threw a couple more to make sure I could kill it, and I ended up hitting it for close to 1100.

Riot please. Math is too hard.

zlumpy8/19/2016, 6:45:46 PM14 votes

She's probably going to get a complete rework before she gets any buffs/nerfs again.

It Hertz When IP8/19/2016, 8:16:34 PM14 votes

Support, but only if the indicator is A: distinctive, and B: also visible to the target if the target's a player.

Arthianne8/19/2016, 5:53:45 PM5 votes

As a dedicated kalista main I will tell you that this will break her in the META. I currently watch my opponents health bar in the top left of my screen and estimate when to rend. if there was an execute indicator it would make it far to easy to CS(Reset her mana) early game and that would make her too easy to farm with. If an execute indicator was added it would give me confidence to 1v5 with triple lifesteal and god knows that would be a bad idea. I disagree with an execute indicator. while it will make it easy for lower skilled players (with her) it would make her far too broken for those who can play her well.

The Yetii Rider8/20/2016, 5:02:17 AM4 votes

Execution indicators are reserved for true damage. Specifically, because true damage is very predictable and if they weren't there the champ would be all about watching the health numbers in the top right of your screen.

Kalista's Rend deals physical damage, which is reduced by armor. A champion's armor value can fluctuate throughout a fight, especially with the presence of Windspeaker's Blessing.

If you see an opponent is about to die from Rend and you go to hit it, only to have that enemy gain a sudden boost of armor from an ability (such as Eclipse or Defense Curl Ball) or an ally heal/shield with Windspeaker's, it would feel bad.

Execution indicators should never be wrong. Physical damage is very unpredictable.

SiG DxD8/19/2016, 9:19:58 PM3 votes

does Garen normal R -magic dmg have ? NO only the true dmg R

YJRBqwXJcS8/19/2016, 10:49:34 PM3 votes

as much as i hate kalista and pretty much anyone who had to play against her when she was viable.

this is actually an ok buff.

ShadowParker8/19/2016, 11:22:33 PM3 votes

I'd argue a change like this would be unecessary. If we give her that, we take away the choice of "Do I think I can kill him, or should I keep autoing him to guarantee it". I feel that's part of the champion.

If you put it on minions, it'll create a lot of visual clutter. So it'd have to be on monsters or epic monsters. But at that point, is it really worth it?

D3m37r18/20/2016, 1:42:55 AM3 votes

She doesn't get an indicator because it resets on cooldown. It's the same reason Darius didn't get one in the juggernaut update. If you see the indicator you literally have no reason to not press the button. As for buffing her, that's not gonna happen. She and reksai got nerfed into the ground because of LCS.

OyddAWqJ5r8/20/2016, 2:01:54 AM2 votes

I gotta say hell no. For the reason of Baron "smites" at 2000 hp just cuz she saw the indicator. Nuh-uh no way.

Stick In Mudd8/19/2016, 8:23:06 PM1 votes

I had no idea that Kal's win rate was so low. I don't play her that often, but find that I can probably get first blood in bot lane, just simply because the enemy adc doesn't realize how much dmg all those spears actually to do him. From there it's basically a face-roll.

She's a lot like twitch except with a forever stacking E. So maybe they would have to buff twitch a little also?