The villain passive would've been more suited for vayne tbh

Tentakill Myself·Oct 22, 2015·57 votes·2,310 views

"Vayne ruthlessly hunts evil-doers"

Not saying she needs buffs, but you could've made it so her W only did true damage to the villain..

24 Comments

YumaS2AstralOct 22, 20157 votes

This would gut her, you would have to make it so that she either did true damage on every attack, or she did a lot more true damage than she does now...

TyroneWatermelonOct 22, 20155 votes

And magic damage to non villians BOOM balanced

Noctius28Oct 22, 20155 votes

thing is Garen normally has the HP to at least make it to the Villain Vayne on the other hand...

PerishSoftlyOct 22, 201522 votes

Is ranged.

Sire HippingtonOct 22, 20153 votes

and got mobillity+stealth.

Noctius28Oct 22, 201511 votes

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Is ranged.

enough range to get passed the front line and the normal distance between 2 teams ready for engage? Which is a bigger distance then level 18 Tristana?

When did that buff happen?

Pale PirateOct 22, 20152 votes

Is ranged.

I don't think that ruthlessly hunting evil-doers includes suicide.

Dextix LTOct 22, 20153 votes

Thing is, that garen has only 1 mobility enhancing ability which can be stopped by any kind of cc. So good luck for him to get to your carries.

Vayne on the other hand has 2/3 second cd dash with invisibility, bonus ms towards enemy champs at ALL TIME and a knockback/stun.

Hum dee hum.

OverpoweredSoapOct 22, 20151 votes

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Thing is, that garen has only 1 mobility enhancing ability which can be stopped by any kind of cc. So good luck for him to get to your carries.

Vayne on the other hand has 2/3 second cd dash with invisibility, bonus ms towards enemy champs at ALL TIME and a knockback/stun.

Hum dee hum.

A Vayne that's going to run at the carries of the enemy team will die in less than a second.

Vayne's strength lies in her ability to protect herself (in addition to the support or anyone else helping her) and still deal good amounts of damage to tanky targets that are trying to lock her down and kill her.

LordBahamutXVIOct 22, 20151 votes

W could be %hp physical damage on a target plus a small flat that doesn't scale. Boom Silver Bolts fixed. Early damage brought down a ton, late game damage only nerfed slightly w/pen. Actually gives you a good reason to get LW third.

Little Stick ManOct 22, 20154 votes

if the silver bolts just did bonus ad to non villain targets it'd make her a lot more healthy lol

A Superb VillainOct 22, 20153 votes

#NO! #NO MORE VILLAIN HUNTING.

Goodnight NunuOct 22, 20151 votes

I'd consider it a compliment. Feeling wanted, y know?

A Superb VillainOct 22, 20152 votes

Being wanted is nice.

Being wanted dead, not so much.

OelykOct 22, 20151 votes

Do not give riot ideas. she already has true damage.

Urgonnalearn2dayOct 22, 20151 votes

Really guys? Most of you would ruin her out of spite; so aren't these suggestions a conflict of interest?

Silents429Oct 22, 20151 votes

And what about her tank busting identity?

How often is Braum or Nautilus the fed carry?

UnpaladinOct 22, 20151 votes

If this was the case she would need some kind of reward for killing her target, since she is going to shoot at different targets every teamfight. Something like W dealing True Damage instead of Magic damage to non-villian targets for a couple seconds, or go full CertainlyT and make every autoattack be a condemn and act like an AoE Lee Sin kick dealing a 24% maximum health true damage nuke to all enemies hit :^)

JambulijaOct 22, 20151 votes

And Garen shoukd get ;

"Vayne spoting" - whenever an opponent dies and gives away 2 assists his confidence rises and Garen gets bonus 2HP, If Garen is one of the 3 involved in the kill he gets bonus 10. :D

Mael broOct 22, 20151 votes

Or maybe give a kill/assist resets on all skills when killing a villain... A man can dream

AbyssphereOct 22, 20151 votes

Leaving aside any heavy analysis on how Villainy would fit on the character of Vayne vs Garen (my stance = very sensible on Garen, iffy on Vayne), gameplay-wise it won't work. Riot stated that Villainy was good for Garen because it didn't significantly change his gameplay - he already gunned for carries, who are generally the Villain, so this just makes him do it in a more interesting way. If a non-carry is the Villain then he gets an interesting choice of choosing between the carries and the Villain, which is cool.

Vayne on the other hand doesn't often get to choose to target the champions who are likely to become the Villain, because she doesn't have the tools nor the stats to do that. She hits the frontliners because that's what she's good at doing, and she gets to the carries when she gets a chance to. Villainy on her would feel terrible if you just threw it on her current kit because she'd just have to ignore the Villain in many cases which is just stupid.