This champion currently has a lot of good match ups mid lane.

TaoistMaster··2 votes·1,018 views

If you hate laning against assassins as much as I do. Try playing Karma Mid lane.

Sick of Zed annoying the piss out of you? Karma will help you!

She does really well against assassins and even has a lot of favorable match ups against most mages.

I like her so much better as a mid laner than taking her bottom lane as a support and she will be so much stronger in team fights with more gold.

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TaoistMaster2 votes

doesn't EVERYONE have trouble against zed mid lane?

FHMarshy1 votes

lmao how is Karma a good match up for zed ? lmao. Yes you have the edge on him early lvls, but once he hits 6, he dominates you so easily.

Chaotic Reks3 votes

what a lie, you can slow/stun/sustain from him with ult+w. Get ulted? ult + e

FHMarshy1 votes

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what a lie, you can slow/stun/sustain from him with ult+w. Get ulted? ult + e

lmao if u can pull that off in a game, u might have climbed outta bronze already :)

Chaotic Reks1 votes

i can do it in norms... but i don't own her myself

TaoistMaster1 votes

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lmao how is Karma a good match up for zed ? lmao. Yes you have the edge on him early lvls, but once he hits 6, he dominates you so easily.

is this a joke?

once he gets to 6 I am a level or 2 ahead of him with item 3191

FHMarshy1 votes

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is this a joke?

once he gets to 6 I am a level or 2 ahead of him with item 3191

Nothing personal, but I really really think if u'd figured a way to take zed, one of the most annoying mid laner to play against, you might have get out of silver already

TaoistMaster1 votes

i prefer mantra W to trade with zed.

Kowe The Ewok1 votes

You might as well pick Urgot. Just because a champion has a decent chance to survive in lane doesn't make him a good pick.

Zed can 100-0 squishies 100-0 squishies Had insane mobility Isn't limited by mana Benefits from rushing Lifesteal -> Has near infinite sustain Had great waveclear Even has a short time invincibility Had an extremely potent slow at an incredibly low cooldown Actually gets his attack damage multiplier (WTF???)

TaoistMaster1 votes

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You might as well pick Urgot. Just because a champion has a decent chance to survive in lane doesn't make him a good pick.

Zed can 100-0 squishies 100-0 squishies Had insane mobility Isn't limited by mana Benefits from rushing Lifesteal -> Has near infinite sustain Had great waveclear Even has a short time invincibility Had an extremely potent slow at an incredibly low cooldown Actually gets his attack damage multiplier (WTF???)

karma provides a lot of magic damage to her team that Urgot wouldn't be able to do.

She actually brings a lot of damage and utility to teamfights.

she is certainly a more viable mid laner than urgot.

I will admit that urgot can crush a lot of midlaners just by out damaging them though :)

Bodkins Odds1 votes

Plus if he dives you, you can ult him. Ever seen an Urgot ult someone underneath his own tower? It's nasty. >:D

JaceDownAsheUp1 votes

ok ive never played zed but have olayed against him a lot. usually if the enemy team gets zed i alwasy go ap so i can buy zhonyas to protect myself. My question is how do you outplay his ult. Most of my inability to outplay it revolves around i dont understand it. Usually i play a champion to understand what their ult does to better counter it but i hate zed so much. SO i would love for people to explain what his ult does, how to play against it and why would karmes ult e be an outplay against it

TaoistMaster1 votes

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ok ive never played zed but have olayed against him a lot. usually if the enemy team gets zed i alwasy go ap so i can buy zhonyas to protect myself. My question is how do you outplay his ult. Most of my inability to outplay it revolves around i dont understand it. Usually i play a champion to understand what their ult does to better counter it but i hate zed so much. SO i would love for people to explain what his ult does, how to play against it and why would karmes ult e be an outplay against it

out play his ult with mantra W and make sure to buy a seekers and finish zhonyas ASAP.

Have a mantra ready to heal with instead of using it for extra Q damage if zed has his ult up.

AmazingGoat1 votes

If you have trouble playing against Zed in mid lane then try taking barrier or exhaust.

If you take exhaust, when he ults onto you, as soon as he becomes visible hit him with exhaust. This will substantially reduce the amount of damage he does to you during his death mark, which will reduce the amount of damage that hits you when his death mark pops.

If you take barrier, when he ults onto you, say "one mississippi" out loud then activate barrier. This will make sure that it is up when his death mark pops.

As others have noted, if you are on an AP caster, you can rush seekers into Zhonyas.

If you are really having trouble with the match up and looking for specific counter picks, Kayle is traditionally considered THE anti-zed, as her shield can completely counter Zed's ult. In lane, it keeps her alive, and later on, it keeps your ADC alive.

Lulu works similarly, as her ult can give whoever Zed ults onto a big infusion of HP.

Annie also has a great matchup against Zed, but it's a bit less fool proof, as if you don't have your stun available when he death marks onto you it can be trouble.

Swain, Vlad, and Morde all can be really hard to kill, which works well enough against Zed.

TaoistMaster1 votes

and all of you being jackasses: bringing up that i am in bronze.

im sure i could "get out"

ive got way over 1000 normals wins. truth is, i don't find ranked fun to play, id rather play normals.

im confident my skill level isn't actually bronze. i know this because of playing against higher ranked opponents and still being able to outperform them in most of my opportunities.

my silver friend and i laned against a diamond 1 adc supp duo the other day and crushed them.

ranked means shit. honestly,.

am i not allowed to post an opinion without some kid lolnetting me and saying OMG BRONZE HE MUST BE BAD.

im not bad. i know how to play.

ive literally been 1 game away from making into silver. 2 times.

and after dealing with the mess of ranked that is bronze, ive reached a point where id rather enjoy games than playing ranked.

tldr dont be an a$$hole

Drunk Rummate1 votes

karma is strong early on but in teamfights her damage is lackluster compared to most AP mages.

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