This bitch has been somehow sliding under the radar as the #1 adc pick in the game statistically DESPITE the fact that her kit is supposed to be niche counterpick against tanks (and tanks suck balls minus maybe sion).
gdogwow17 votesVayne nerfs? She’s only 52% win rate with 23% pick rate and 20% ban rate even tho she’s a “late game” hypercarry and a really easy champion to play. She can only kill you in <5 auto attacks. Isn’t that what Adc are supposed to do? Honestly she needs buffed. Maybe change her q cooldown during her ult to 75% discounted CD. That might make her better than the dogshit 52% wr she’s at now.
gdogwow17 votesNah but fr fuck that champ. Should’ve got nerfed patches ago but it’s vayne so whatever
Dewott6104 votesbut then firecracker vayne wouldn't sell
pickIe rick8 votesreally easy champion to play
alright I despise vayne but if you genuinely think this you're delusional
Iota Theta2 votes[{quoted}](name=pickIe rick,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=uzmpX0d4,comment-id=00000001,timestamp=2019-03-06T21:52:15.816+0000)
alright I despise vayne but if you genuinely think this you're delusional
Given how their post reads, going with it’s satire.
reaper40421 votesThe only reason she has a 52% winrate is because everyone at low elo just thinks oh im vayne i can 1v5 at every point in the game hurdurr
SweedishGunner8 votesRiven needs to be looked at too.
Tin Obliterates1 votesRiven needs to be looked at too.
"B-But muh aNiMatiOn CanCeLs!"
huhndog6 votesShe's one of the reasons why tanks arent as present anymore tbh
Daddy Ants10 votesShe's one of the reasons why tanks arent as present anymore tbh
Yet tanks and Vayne have co existed for 7 years.
Yeah... ok.
FSRER2 votesBut this rageblade which gives FREE armor pen and magic pen didnt. Neither did the buffs to her ult. So, whats the point here?
Daddy Ants1 votesBut this rageblade which gives FREE armor pen and magic pen didnt. Neither did the buffs to her ult. So, whats the point here?
It's 15% at level 18.
That also cannot be used along side last whisper.
Saevum1 votesYeah, cause they can no longer encounter eachother.
His Bonnie1 votesShe's one of the reasons why tanks arent as present anymore tbh
I have no idea what you're talking about. I've mained her since before she was considered "good" to play and people thought you were trolling by picking her until you get a penta.
Kaisha6 votesAt this point the only thing that can save season 9 is rebalancing the dev team.
Mcsquzzy4 voteschange w back from max health to current otherwise anything else may be similar to what they did to akali, where honestly all they needed to change was her shroud under enemies turrets but they decided to remove her sustain as well which kicked her from top lane and makes mid lane feel just like old akali where you had to wait for a few levels
Barso554 votesits the synergy with guinsoo that has to go. % max health true damage on every second auto with no cooldown is just too strong. If she was immobile/didn't have invis potential for counterplay I wouldn't argue but she has everything.
Bisaknosp1 votesnot nearly enough she needs direct nerfs as well
Daddy Ants3 votesits the synergy with guinsoo that has to go. % max health true damage on every second auto with no cooldown is just too strong. If she was immobile/didn't have invis potential for counterplay I wouldn't argue but she has everything.
I'd be totally fine with Guinsoo's interaction with Silver Bolts being disabled if they leave the champion alone.
TimeToDieSuckers3 votesWhat are you talking about? Vayne is a hypercarry she's supposed to 1v9 every game. Seems underpowered imo.
/s
GrReaper963 votescough prestige vayne cough
HàrrowR2 votesVayne is op and that's coming from a Vayne main but please for the love of god stop spewing this bullshit about her being a "niche anti-tank killer" there is no niche anti-tank killers, her passive is just good against tanks, she's not designed to specifically destroy tanks or else she'd be designed as a toplaner.
Lets stop pretending adcs are specifically designed to kill tanks and should for some reason therefore deal 0 dmg to everyone else, they are designed to deal damage, period, you have things like Fiora that will shred a tank but no one calls her a " niche anti-tank"
Serika Zero1 votesPeople call her anti tank because she does %max hp true dmg with every 2 autos. tanks usually build resistance, true damage counters that Tanks usually buy hp, %max hp counters that. Q gives her invisibility to dodge and avoid being clicked by tanks. and she's ranged, so, she can attack tanks before they get in range.
And she can also push them back and continue to kite and kill them.
Now, while fiora is having the same%max hp true dmg. she is melee, she can't kite and kill tanks around. She can only avoid dmg or cc with parry. And no steroids.
While vayne ca still get blown away by assassin, fiora usually can't in the late game.
sho ayane1 votesfiora does have a steroid don't forget
His Bonnie2 votesI'm a Vayne main and personally, I think if they were to buff other ADC's, especially her counters, that would really help. If I don't get to pick Vayne, I'm generally going to pick 
and even though I think she's decent when you're experienced with her I think she could use a little more power, especially because most people pick her for a strong early game and counter pick.
Even though Vayne is the best at destroying tanks, she's the biggest hypercarry, which IMO is her actual niche. If Riot didn't want to buff her counters, I would suggest nerfing her early game but maintaining the late game.
LTK KoRo6 votesno. ADCs as a whole are right now either fine or busted, there are no weak adcs who deserve buffs. Instead of making broken counters for a broken champion let's just nerf the broken champion
Sir Saltarin1 votesSorry but Caitlyn is being buffed on PBE (just her ultimate)
[slayer-jinx-catface]
Daddy Ants1 votes[{quoted}](name=Sir Saltarin,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=uzmpX0d4,comment-id=000500000000,timestamp=2019-03-07T10:49:40.166+0000)
Sorry but Caitlyn is being buffed on PBE (just her ultimate)
[slayer-jinx-catface]
Any buff to Caitlyn can change bot lane completely.
You're a bot lane player... You know what bot lanes like when Caitlyn is strong.
Sir Saltarin1 votesAnd since I'm an ADC main and Caitlyn is my second most played champ I know what happens when Caitlyn is the apex predator of botlane, which doesn't happens since spring 2017.
A buff to her meme ultimate is always great.
HyperionBlaze21 votesHeeyyyy. Fellow Vayne main. I agree honestly. People think she super busted. But all you really have to do is cc the shit out of her. And focus just her. Or Camp her in lane phase. As she comes online after 2 items. That being bork and rb in most cases. She's suppose to have the best late game. And Cait is a handy counter. It's so oppresive in lane. I've gotten to where even in the early game i can wreck if i play things right. And while i don't condone buffing cait in any way. Due to the amount of poke she has. She can be screwed by Draven, Lucian, Trist, Twitch. If she gets camped or cheesed early on. Just my thoughts!
LTK KoRo1 votesfellow vayne main telling us to "just cc and focus vayne". Great. Breaking news, vayne winrate falls to 2% after people realized she can be cced
QancerClown2 votesA better question. Can we pls address anything in 9.6? Coz 9.5 was useless. It changed nothing. The only change was that Kayle is now useless and worthless. Vayne, Riven, Yorick, Thresh, Rek Sai, Zed, Jax, Jayce are still walking with stat sticks. And that nerf on Conqeror ... wtf, don't nerf brusers by making their rune useless. They have one fucking rune. I don't even play them and I feel bad for brusers, because if they get nerfed, conq will stay nerfed coz riot will forget about it. They will be useless then. Fucking braindead company.
iiGazeii1 votesJust take that change where she gets no cooldown on her tumble during her ult, and tie it into ult rank. She shouldn't get it at level 6 at all, but maybe some at level 11, then the full stealth uptime at level 16
Nea1041 votesAfter Season 8, someone still believes they can actually do their job :D
Verxint1 votesThey'll nerf her once the skin sales slow down. Until then we all just have to take it in the ass
SuperTopLFBottom1 votesHow was it in the other thread? WHaT iS iT wItH yOu BrUiSeR pLaYeRs
Ezreal stupidly fuckin broken beyond believe for half a year now. Yeah we know he is broken but we nerf him next patch x) Vayne buffed beyond stupid. Not even mentioned. Lucian gets a meme nerf. Draven unmentioned. Caitlyn actually gets buffed.
Mages get ignored.
A bruiser does well and gets played competitively? Nerf the champ, nerf the keystone. Nerf the keystone again. Nerf our items. Nerf our items again. Nerf every single bruiser directly and hard. Then rework the keystone. Nerf it again, then nerf it again and again. But not riven tho. God beware she isn't toptier every single season forever and ever.
How every support player floods the forums whenever riot dares to slightly touch them despite them being SO broken for SO long but it obviously cannot change cuz otherwise low elo won't play support.
WHAT IS IT WITH US BRUISER PLAYERS I WONDER !?
Daddy Ants1 votesMages get ignored.
They are one of... if not the strongest class in the game right now.
They don't need shit.
MessyStuff1 votesThey are one of... if not the strongest class in the game right now.
They don't need shit.
Lol, just don't bother. Everyone on the boards just thinks "Assassins and ADCs are op and they should be gutted" and that mages are the most interesting and weakest champions in the game.
PrinceOfStorms1 votesThey also have far, far more counterplay than your average bruiser who either runs you down and kills you with little you can do against them (think Sho'jin Jax) or feeds because they get kited forever.
Whereas the overwhelming majority of mages can be outplayed by actually dodging their spells. Strange concept I know.
sho ayane1 votesI would trade a vayne nerf to get rid of ezreal any day
rabirinsu1 votesriot hasn't sold enough her lunar skins yet. so nah, more perma stealth true damage
LatetotheRace1 votesTrue damage niche? Pshaw. Really though.. they need to make true damage niche...
Wizard Blaze1 votesRito still need to sell her skins. some shady businessman in tencent need more those dollars from Vayne skins.
sho ayane1 votesthey haven't reached the firecracker vayne profit goal yet :)
