Assist Gold Pool Needs To Be Removed.

Rainfall··11 votes·1,030 views

Creating gold out of nothing to give to junglers for ganking is unfair and irrational. You get more punished dying to an enemy gank than you do from getting solo killed. The solo lanes have been stripped from all skill expression.The diference between the skill of 2 players in a solo lane should be visible in lane not in the 20 seconds they spend roaming bot. All in all. Assist gold pool: 1.All kills in the botlane are 50% more gold efficient since the support almost always is there to get an assist. 2.Has made botlane more snowbally than the rest of the lanes. 3.Has made solo lanes overly jungle dependent. 4.Encourages junglers to camp lanes. 5.strips solo lanes from all skill expression. The more someones climbs in ranks the more obvious it becomes that solo lanes are too jungle dependent,the only lane that gets an actual lanephase is botlane even if just for a short time. Conclusion: Solo kills should give x gold champions who assist should get a portion of x gold. High elo junglers averaging at 80%+ kill participation in ranked games below 15 minutes is a joke for any moba game.

20 Comments

Timethief499 votes

Its a teamgame not a game about 1v1. I dont get why the outcome of a lane should solely be dependend on the skilldifference of the 2 laners.

Ben Sharpio7 votes

When junglers actually fucked off and farmed all game to get devourer stacks laners were REALLY liking that too right? No, they hated that shit. So now that junglers are back in the game and being "interactive" by doing OUR JOBS laners are back to bitching again.

Rainfall3 votes

i never said that junglers should not get gold for ganking succesfully,i simply said that the gold they get should be taken out of the kill bounty and not created out of nothing.

KoKoboto1 votes

Well the problem is that when you spam ganks all the time you don't get punished like at ALL. Just do krugs and hehe comeback xp.

Like jungle is so silly right now. You can steal camps so consistently yet the lead doesn't even feel like it's there is they manage to get some scraps left...

Rainfall4 votes

1.well in team games there should also be a fair distribution of the impact each players have on the game,do you believe top is as impactfull as the jungle role or the adc role? 2.when you die to an enemy gank you made some mistakes,when you get solo killed you made even more mistakes, shouldnt you be punished more since you made more mistakes?

Timethief493 votes
  1. Yes
  2. Both are fatal mistakes. There isnt such a thing as more fatal mistake.
Rainfall3 votes

Of course there is more than a fatal mistake,do you even know what youre talking about? have you ever died under your turret? do you not notice a diference between dying under your turret with 30 minions attacking your turret and while pushing the lane? dying under your turret means that youre losing 2 entire minion waves of exp and gold extra. Why would you make such a comment when you do not understand the fundamentals of the game?

Salson2 votes

Then how do we balance the Laner vs the Jungler? The moment a Jungler has more than 20% influence on all lanes + counterjungling + dragon control he becomes overpowered.

People like Tarzaned complain that jungle can't really carry, just get their laners ahead by being a gank bot. Laners complain about overly oppresive Junglers.

Idk man, you tell me. What exactly was wrong with S6 jungle?

BobaFlautist8 votes

Setting up your lane for ganks is a form of skill expression.

Free2Play7 votes

"High elo junglers averaging at 80%+ kill participation in ranked games below 15 minutes is a joke for any moba game." Enough said

DrCyanide4 votes

I can't even imagine the raging over KS that would happen if there wasn't assist gold. And can you imagine the posts back and forth? "Don't gank my lane if you're going to take the kill" responded with "you get free farm after I kill your laner, we're even".

LXII2 votes

I'm in a weird spot here because I agree that fabricating extra gold to give out for assists is dumb, but the alternative doesn't seem like it would produce good interactions between teammates. It would certainly slow down bot lane snowballs but would almost guarantee some flaming.

Jungler is top side, sees their top lane whooping the enemy's ass, slides in to help in case the enemy jungler is there, gets an assist... Gets flamed for taking gold. Same thing in literally every other lane as well.

While it would be nice for your enemies to get less out of this (and flame each other as well), it's a 2 way street and you would see the exact same thing on your team. Doesn't seem worth it in the long run since the game is already not a fun experience most of the time.

PePsiLemoNN2 votes

Is this the new circlejerk?

Dasdi961 votes

It should be like this: Solo kill: 300 gold Duo kill: 200 for kill, 100 for assist Trio: 150 for kill, 75 for assists Quad: 120 for kill, 60 for assists Whole team: 100 for kill, 50 for assists.

Nhifu1 votes

I wish they would make the map smaller, to encourage team fighting :P

Winterwings1 votes

Im not sure this would be smart at all. While it is kinda dumb how assist gold is fabricated out of thin air... Doing this would change jungling sure, but it would also kinda mess with support's income and Riot would probably need to tinker with their gold income items AGAIN. Need i remind you item 3301 is still quite "oppressive" with how much gold it churns out?

In the end, im not sure how to feel about this idea... On one hand it would change things up, on the other though it would surely create many other unforeseen problems...

KoKoboto1 votes

It's interesting how coin also gives extra gold on kills and assists while other items don't... Funny how you can literally shield nothing and do nothing but tap the enemy and you just get an extra 40g.

I agree and that should be another point they look at with the Preseason. This season 8 they're planning alot of changes and stuff. This is a great time to fix the shitty metas that has been going on one after the other since the end of season 5.

  • Fix gold
  • Fix towers
  • Fix damage
  • Fix tanks
  • Fix marksmen
  • Fix experience
  • Fix jungle
  • Fix itemization

Am I missing stuff?

And I really wish that Riot would just stop making new champions and fix the old ones. Just put all the new champion makers onto the fix champions team.

LadyRenly1 votes

this would make support completely unrewarding

KoKoboto1 votes

I'd say saving teammates, building leads, making plays, and getting vision are rewards of itself.

Colgate Gator1 votes

This game is based around team playing, not 1v1's.

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