Iceborn Gauntlet is an item that needs some sort of change

YumaS2Astral··5 votes·1,007 views

This item is extremely niche and rarely purchased. Even on champions that this item would be good, this item is outclassed by item 3078 or item 3110.

item 3025 is like an "halfway" between the two, but unfortunately, the stats that this item gives are inferior (Trinity Force gives more damage and offensive stats, while Frozen Heart has more armor and more CDR, while having only slighty less mana), so most of time it is better to just get both Triforce and Frozen Heart instead of purchasing Iceborn Gauntlet and saving one slot (which will not be a big deal on itself).

Some AP champions can buy Iceborn Gauntlet, but this item is usually outclassed on them by item 3100 or item 3157. Lich Bane gives way more damage and scale better into late game. Zhonya's Hourglass has only slighty less armor, but has much more AP and an useful active. Even if you were to buy this item for the mana and the CDR, item 3165 and item 3174 outclass Iceborn Gauntlet on that part, as they give more CDR and are way better for solving mana issues. They also give more AP.

Some suggestions to make this item a better purchase:

1) Make the Spellblade passive do magic damage

Many champions that would buy this are tanks that do magic damage with their skills. Making this item do magic damage would allow them to benefit a lot more from magic penetration (think of items such as Liandry's Torment, which would have fantastic synergy with this item if it did magic damage). Also, on AD champions, this item would allow them to do mixed damage, bypassing the enemy's armor; although most of them would probably stick to Trinity Force. ** 2) Increase the amount of armor this item gives**

Iceborn Gauntlet used to offer 70 armor. I don't know why this was reduced. Reverting this nerf would allow this item to be much more worth purchasing, especially now that most armor items were nerfed.

3) Increase the slow amount on Spellblade

Especially due to recent changes which made slows not stack with each other. Some champions who could buy Iceborn Gauntlet already have slows on their kit, most of time those slows are way stronger, making it pointless to buy Iceborn Gauntlet for the slow.

An idea that I had was to make the Spellblade passive also slow attack speed, but that could potentially be overpowered.

11 Comments

IcyPepper3 votes

I think the slow needs to be slightly buffed to 40%, since slows can't add to each other anymore (and this item was often built, like other slow items, to compliment cc).

Yosuke Apperu1 votes

Nooo don't touch it! I needitem 3025 on Taric !! It's one of my two core items on top lane taric and he neeeeeds it XD

Centuros1 votes

I still buy it all the time on Maokai. It makes his Q even more oppressive!

Nekusen1 votes

i like item 3025 , makes Kassadin more bearable and works nicely on Ekko

YumaS2Astral1 votes

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i like item 3025 , makes Kassadin more bearable and works nicely on Ekko

For both Kassadin and Ekko, most of time it is better to just get item 3157 and item 3100. Lich Bane scales much better during all the game damage wise, while with Zhonya, you don't miss the armor, and instead get more AP and a very good active. The cooldown reduction can be missed, but if you really want it, get item 3165.

Currently it is hard to justify item 3025 on any champion

Hard4Hamsters1 votes

but really as the OP stated, Lichbane and Triforce are just better for them in any situation as Kassadin has a heavy slow already and Ekko has like 4 slows and they are all stronger than the slow from IBG. Triforce on bruiser Ekko is better as it does more damage and gives him possibly more stickiness than IBG thanks to the MS it provides. Lichbane on Kassadin is easily better than IBG as the damage it can deal is far higher. IF IBG were changed to deal magic damage, this might not be as big of an issue as you could get IBG as a more defensive lichbane on AP fighters.

The only champion that I can see really benefitting from IBG is Taric and that is probably because it gives him nearly everything he wants in one item. Other champions don't really need all the stats that IBG gives as they probably don't need 500 mana if the item was reworked to give a little more AP or Armor and less mana (around 300) it would probably be a better item, but as it builds out of Sheen and Glacial Shroud, it already has 450 mana in components. I think Glacial Shroud needs to be taken out of the item in favor of Chain vest or maybe even Raptor cloak to make it a more purchasable item on most champions. I do sometimes pick it up on AP offtanks or fighters, but I always feel bad about it due to the price of the item and the less useful passive and stats when compared to either Lichbane or Triforce and as far as having an Armor + CDR item, Frozen Heart is just worlds better, even after the nerfs.

The item needs changed I would say to change the components of the item to a Sheen + second tier armor item and then give it magic damage AOE instead of Physical. Even adjusting the stats could help it. You wouldn't be paying for 200 extra mana anymore so I would think they could give it either more armor 70 (probably with 30 AP) or more AP 40-50 (with 50-60 armor) the AOE could still scale with your base AD solely as this would be an item that would fit fighters and tanks more than High AP building mages and Assassins that would rather get Lichbane.

AL0001 votes

actually igb is basely for champion who can dash a lot... igb is pretty core on ekko fiz, and ez... tf is good for fighter and ranger who can use sheen well... but not for ap tho...

SaltyToplaneGoat1 votes

I like the build it on MF in a zero crit build. Together with a black cleaver and your passive you have amazing kiting power... An increase on the slow would not hurt I guess...

AtheosisX1 votes

Don't really agree. item 3025 is quite good and in my opinion.

YumaS2Astral1 votes

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Don't really agree. item 3025 is quite good and in my opinion.

The problem with Iceborn Gauntlet is not that it is a bad item. The problem is that it is outclassed by many other items, and on most champions, it is hard to justify using it over other options. One of the very few examples in that it is not outclassed is Taric. This only applies to Taric top, though. Support Taric will still use Frozen Heart over it.

AtheosisX1 votes

I don't really agree with that either. All the items you have brought up don't really replace the combination of armor, mana, ability power, and a slowing effect. Now that combination is not something that is desired on a lot champs over raw damage, tankiness, etc., but on those it is desired on it's a really good item and is not outclassed within its niche in any way.

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