If you have a powerchord charged up and go in for the Q harassment, do you get the thrunderloads proc? Heck wouldn't you get the proc off just Q auto? I Don't have a pbe account so I can't check
Considering how that combo has 4 different damage sources (Q, proc, AA, passive) I don't see why it wouldn't
A Wild AP Sona1 votesIf you have a powerchord charged up and go in for the Q harassment, do you get the thrunderloads proc? Heck wouldn't you get the proc off just Q auto? I Don't have a pbe account so I can't check
Considering how that combo has 4 different damage sources (Q, proc, AA, passive) I don't see why it wouldn't
I tested it on PBE and yeah it appears to work with power chord but didnt seem like it did without it
that could be considered a sona buff however her mana issues are terrible which is so awful it should count as 10 additional sona nerfs
basically your mana issues are so awful that with a typical q harass level by level 2-3 you will be oom without using w once and sona can no longer be considered a "sustain" support because if you use w once you instantly go oom
it doesnt get better until you get sheen/mejais (thats right mejais is what you have to use to help confront mana issues)
I probably will rush the 400g ring that turns into mejais after frostfang and not even buy a sightstone early to help with the problem
RedCyclone1 votesMeh, i never really got mana problems on Sona, it's just keeping your finger off W for most of the earlygame It's a questionable thing with the masteries, but I am curious as to how it will pan out, only time will tell i guess...
Another question, did her W passive get the same effect that Urgots passive did? (making the target smaller, as both are damage reduction on hit effects) I am going to be dumbfounded if it isn't
A Wild AP Sona1 votesMeh, i never really got mana problems on Sona, it's just keeping your finger off W for most of the earlygame It's a questionable thing with the masteries, but I am curious as to how it will pan out, only time will tell i guess...
Another question, did her W passive get the same effect that Urgots passive did? (making the target smaller, as both are damage reduction on hit effects) I am going to be dumbfounded if it isn't
no like without even using w you go oom just by using q to poke and have no mana potions to help you counter it
RedCyclone1 votesI usually don't even take mana potions as Sona in botlane and don't go crazy out of mana super fast I don't even take any points in utility either
I would assume it gets a little better as you upgrade your spellthieves as the mana regen is much better on that
A Wild AP Sona1 votesI usually don't even take mana potions as Sona in botlane and don't go crazy out of mana super fast I don't even take any points in utility either
I would assume it gets a little better as you upgrade your spellthieves as the mana regen is much better on that
nope your impossibly mana hungry
if your adc takes any serious damage (or you) the lane is basically over because you will never have the mana to heal or poke ever again until you recall and give the enemy a 20 cs lead and tons of exp
so basically if they land one good series of hits on your adc or you the lane is automatically over
I won both of my games but I was desperately struggling to stay in lane vs some bronze/silver lamp posts that were not even hitting me or my adc back
basically relic shield supports now have the ability to heal their adc without losing lane but if sona wants to compete with 1 series of relic shield charges she will throw the lane for her and her adc
RedCyclone1 votesWell most should know not to get their shit fucked up when you are playing Sona Mana management pre 6 for me is 90% Q, 5% W and 5% E for a slow powerchord
I really do not meet mana problems unless I use my W more then twice, yeah W is fucking ass and the mana cost is a liability to you, sometimes It can matter in those short burst fights where it is do or die.
A Wild AP Sona1 votesWell most should know not to get their shit fucked up when you are playing Sona Mana management pre 6 for me is 90% Q, 5% W and 5% E for a slow powerchord
I really do not meet mana problems unless I use my W more then twice, yeah W is fucking ass and the mana cost is a liability to you, sometimes It can matter in those short burst fights where it is do or die.
they may as well remove heal from sonas kit and replace it with something else because she is no longer a sustain support before mid game
its sad how much more sustain relic shield supports offer than sona now their adc/support will always be topped off nicely and you and your adc will be 60-70% health
RedCyclone1 votesAll I consider her W to be good for is a buffer for 
Eventually with AP and cdr it becomes a good sustain tool later on...when people basically sustain themselves off lifesteal, but until you are level 13, it's pretty substandard
A Wild AP Sona1 votesAll I consider her W to be good for is a buffer for
Eventually with AP and cdr it becomes a good sustain tool later on...when people basically sustain themselves off lifesteal, but until you are level 13, it's pretty substandard
I refuse to accept the responsibility to being considered a sustain support by the community when a fucking support teemo with a relic shield can and will out heal me and if I use w once we automatically lose lane because I used 1 ability in my kit once or twice
I was struggling to stay in lane due to mana issues vs some bronze/silver players and they were standing there like lamp posts not even hitting back so I cant imagine what will happen when people harass back how bad mana issues will be
this is retarded to not even have the option to buy mana potions while adc get buffs out the ass vs every role on league they may as well have 4 adc with an ashe support for cc
I suppose they expect me to buy the fucking 400-500g flask
RedCyclone1 votesHer W is bad, I agree
However I do not want it to go back to being a W bot botlane, that shit was insufferable to play as and against I'd love the thing to just get removed and replaced with something else, but you know...Riot don't seem to give a shit about Sona right now anyway
If you want to spam W early, I suggest rushing a chalice, you will not go OOM unless you literally use every skill as soon as it comes off CD
A Wild AP Sona1 votesHer W is bad, I agree
However I do not want it to go back to being a W bot botlane, that shit was insufferable to play as and against I'd love the thing to just get removed and replaced with something else, but you know...Riot don't seem to give a shit about Sona right now anyway
If you want to spam W early, I suggest rushing a chalice, you will not go OOM unless you literally use every skill as soon as it comes off CD
all im going to say is the skill level and worth of a sona is decided by how much pressure she can put on adc/support without actually getting killed
if you cant get in the face of the adc/support after their support misses a cc and get 2-3 q off you are basically worthless and will never beat a real adc/support bot lane in a competitive higher elo game
"their thresh missed a hook but lol better not punish no mana :> will do 1 40 damage aa tho"
your damage will never accumulate as sona unless its consistent enough and if they are both 90-100% hp you have basically failed your job as sona
and nah not enough item slots for something like chalice it also would gimp her damage and dueling potential because it brings 0 to the table in an all in 2v2 fight
HentRex1 votesThat heal on relic needs to go, imo. Relic supports tend to be tanks, the best way(used to be) to deal with them was poke them out. Now you can't. I'd rather see the hp regen return to relic if it got rid of the heal.