I waited until preseason like you asked

Akali is SO HOT·Nov 12, 2017·137 votes·6,371 views

Does that mean it's time for Twitch nerfs?

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51 Comments

13900 EssenceNov 12, 201758 votes

They'll nerf twitch as soon as they make akali's kit counterable post-6 and interactive (never). [slayer-pantheon-thumbs]

~~Its just a meme don't hurt me~~

Akali is SO HOTNov 12, 201717 votes

oh ok

Tausif2002Nov 12, 20177 votes

But before that they need to rework Volibear (also never).

Praetor NotoriasNov 12, 20172 votes

Oh wow. I totally forgot he existed. I bought skins for him... I know who my next support is gonna be. Thanks!

DeathToEcchiNov 13, 20171 votes

Everyone moans about cho's hp scaling damage yet voli is still broken

MasquerobotNov 13, 20171 votes

Voli makes for a terrible supp, don't ruin people's game please. Lol.

Glory ln DeathNov 13, 20171 votes

That's what people used to say about Sion support.

MasquerobotNov 15, 20171 votes

I love me some Sion, and he is an actual viable support, mid, jg, top, anything. Voli relies too much on his q which is countered by 10000 things.

Praetor NotoriasNov 14, 20171 votes

I've been wrecking house with him.

MasziiNov 12, 20171 votes

[{quoted}](name=Serial Tickler,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=uoBdOoE8,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2017-11-12T03:56:36.536+0000)

They'll nerf twitch as soon as they make akali's kit counterable post-6 and interactive (never). [slayer-pantheon-thumbs]

~~Its just a meme don't hurt me~~

This

Imperial JapanNov 12, 20171 votes

[{quoted}](name=Serial Tickler,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=uoBdOoE8,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2017-11-12T03:56:36.536+0000)

They'll nerf twitch as soon as they make akali's kit counterable post-6 and interactive (never). [slayer-pantheon-thumbs]

~~Its just a meme don't hurt me~~

PurrloxxNov 13, 20173 votes

turns out, 5 tanks and an adc is meta, and counters akali PERFECTLY in season 8. my stats have gone from 20 kills a match against no tanks or just one to this meta and going 1/8/3 in a match where the team its self went 1 to us and 35 to the TANKS

13900 EssenceNov 13, 20172 votes

{quoted}

turns out, 5 tanks and an adc is meta, and counters akali PERFECTLY in season 8. my stats have gone from 20 kills a match against no tanks or just one to this meta and going 1/8/3 in a match where the team its self went 1 to us and 35 to the TANKS

5 tanks and an ADC, I didn't know I was on the overwatch boards.

~~Also it was a meme~~

NiyumiNov 12, 201727 votes

No, they talked about it earlier: Twitch is only "broken" because stealth is strong in solo queue. He's not performing strong compared to other ADCs, so he's not slated for nerfs in any way.

... don't you love F2P cash grabs? Almost like we laughed at them 10-15 years ago for a very fucking good reason.

Faceroll TacticsNov 12, 201710 votes

Umm but, he was pick/ban in worlds meaning he is strong in pro environment as well

Lord Phazanor Nov 12, 201717 votes

[{quoted}](name=Faceroll Tactics,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=uoBdOoE8,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2017-11-12T05:14:47.218+0000)

Umm but, he was pick/ban in worlds meaning he is strong in pro environment as well

Are you trying to use logic? This is forbidden! Stop right there!

Chembaron YamadaNov 12, 201722 votes

He wasn't.

From 80 worlds games, he was picked/banned 31 times. His status got outperformed by the following ADCs: Kalista Tristana KogMaw Xayah

So by that logic, we should nerf these first before touching Twitch.

go next irl plsNov 12, 201720 votes

Are you trying to use logic? This is forbidden! Stop right there!

Biscuit BiteNov 12, 20173 votes

Banana!

https://m.popkey.co/987552/NGLb3.gif

Chembaron YamadaNov 12, 20177 votes

Soraka banana you too, my friend.

koshkyraNov 13, 20171 votes

Ezreal did someone say banana

PoskeNov 12, 20173 votes

{quoted}

He wasn't.

From 80 worlds games, he was picked/banned 31 times. His status got outperformed by the following ADCs:

So by that logic, we should nerf these first before touching Twitch.

None exactly claimed this 4 are ok XD

Doctor FillgoodNov 12, 20172 votes

{quoted}

From 80 worlds games, he was picked/banned 31 times.

THAT'S ALMOST 50%!!! YES HE SHOULD BE RE-EVALUATED!

Chembaron YamadaNov 13, 20171 votes

Don't know if sarcasm or serious.

If serious: under 50% in pro play is not that extremely high, especially if there are candidates like Kalista which have 100% banrate.

The OasisNov 12, 20171 votes

Even so, considering half the roster is already completely untouched in competitive I don't see why one more would hurt for the health and entertainment value of solo que. Though I don't think that was your argument exactly.

FrostfelNov 13, 20171 votes

Poor Kalista got nearly 100% ban in worlds. Or was it 100% didn't watch all games?

Chembaron YamadaNov 13, 20171 votes

100% banrate, indeed. She really needs that gameplay update, in my opinion more than Aatrox.

GorillazNtheMystNov 13, 20172 votes

So because these champions seemingly outperformed him in the World Championship, we should not be concerned about the absurd state of Twitch for the rest of us mere mortals? Lol Idk, I'm sick to death of this BS champ that appears out of nowhere to 2-shot me. SUCH COUNTERPLAY.

Chembaron YamadaNov 13, 20171 votes

All I am saying is that he is not busted in pro play like he implied. And if Riot claims that Twitch isn't really outperforming other ADCs, I kinda believe it.

They are the ones with the exact data. And looking at the statistics, Twitch mains have around 57% winrate with him, which is normal. He may be frustrating with his stealth mechanic like many stealth champs (Vayne is worse for me, but maybe that's just me).

However, there is one change I stated several times in the boards to make his camouflage a bit more fair. When Twitch is in x range of you in camouflage, it shows a green gas boarder on the screen.

It warns you about his presence, without giving away his exact position. It fits thematically, you can't see him, but you can smell him. If it would turn out that this nerf is too harsh, they can add power elsewhere. For example giving back some of his dot on his passive.

Thund3r Ang3lNov 13, 20171 votes

[{quoted}](name=Faceroll Tactics,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=uoBdOoE8,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2017-11-12T05:14:47.218+0000)

Umm but, he was pick/ban in worlds meaning he is strong in pro environment as well

he was pick/ban because they were playing in the unerfed ardent censor patch. He was OP because of this specific item. Now he is just good at his role.

lolipopevelynnNov 12, 20176 votes

{quoted}

No, they talked about it earlier: Twitch is only "broken" because stealth is strong in solo queue. He's not performing strong compared to other ADCs, so he's not slated for nerfs in any way.

... don't you love F2P cash grabs? Almost like we laughed at them 10-15 years ago for a very fucking good reason.

*not nerfing twitch because stealth is the problem, not twitch. so twitch wont get nerfs.

*nerfed evelynn for years because of her stealth and ONLY because of her stealth

*reworked eve just to nerf her stealth mechanic even harder by gating it to a lvl 6 ultimate and increasing detection radius

*eve sitting at 48% winrate and they are afraid to buff her

*but twitch isnt getting nerfed with his 54% winrate

*not even getting his stealth touched

[sg-shisa] REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

DaNinadNov 12, 20174 votes

51%

Imperial JapanNov 12, 20171 votes

{quoted}

51%

This and all you really have to do is buy a Pink. another thing is that a lot of people are even more op than twitch rn so it'll be a waste to do so, in a month or two everyone will have forgotten about twitch

Chembaron YamadaNov 12, 20171 votes

All the people were demanding buffs for Evelynn, but it seems they were right to not do it. In the end, she benefited from the rune changes more than other champs, just like they predicted.

SkorchNov 13, 20173 votes

Still wish empowered E did more than bringing you from melee range, to close enough to smell the persons future children.

Chembaron YamadaNov 13, 20171 votes

It does, though. Just played with an Evelynn recently and was able to see that it dealt a good chunk of damage against my top lane enemy. It comes in handy if you have to gank tanky targets, which are not the preferred prey of an assassin. Additionally, it's just like Warwick's Q, if I remember correctly. If timed right, it let's you stick to targets through their escape (flash or innate).

DarkSoul1994Nov 12, 201712 votes

I thought this was going to be a thread about how Evelynn is still a worthless Jungler.

I guess while I'm here I could address how ridiculous it is that the stealth radius around Twitch (a ranged champion) is smaller than Evelynn (whose kit revolves around stealth FAR more than Twitch's does).

https://i.gyazo.com/12ff64e3a247940329451129ce1c2668.jpg

https://i.gyazo.com/a2c9a153d78160d9d0ee55e6ac2c5b58.jpg

Just for context, Evelynn's LONGEST RANGE ability barely reaches her stealth radius. Twitch, on the other hand, with his ultimate can hit people nearly 3x the distance of his stealth radius.

PennsNov 12, 20171 votes

Twitch is opie, Eve has pretty good stats too tho

vgamedudeNov 12, 20179 votes

I hate Twitch

I hate ADCs

that is all

General Esdeath Nov 12, 20177 votes

next preseason*

koshkyraNov 13, 20171 votes

Or maybe like season twelve, that seems like a reasonable time to wait before nerfing him kappa

SasogwaNov 12, 20176 votes

"good only in soloQ"

picked in worlds several times but whatever right

LeetriNov 13, 20171 votes

Picked because everything better was banned.

SwarovskoNov 12, 20174 votes

I love how they said he was good in soloq and yet he was picked many many many times in worlds

Tomoe GozenNov 12, 201710 votes

Which Marksmen were actually banned before Twitch? He was being picked BECAUSE there were no bans targeted at him most of the times, which meant teams that let him go had a strategy against him or had a stronger pick in mind.

Just saying "he was being played at Worlds" isn't the whole picture.

A NunuNov 12, 20172 votes

Nice boards avatar.

Akali is SO HOTNov 12, 20172 votes

ye mine is the best

egirl uwuNov 13, 20171 votes

O Ok

VekknaNov 13, 20171 votes

Twitch's Q is just straight-up overpowered. Either the duration, detection, MS, or cooldown need to be nerfed. And for fuck's sake, why does damage not interrupt the fade?

Akali is SO HOTFeb 4, 20181 votes

Still relevant