Passive : stealth no longer has a level 6 requirement. This is probably the stupidest part of her whole kit right now. This was the whole reason that warwick was reworked. Revert this
Q: leave it as is
W: gain movement speed when moving towards target
E: empowered increased dive range by 100 And an additional 100 for charmed targets.
R: lower cooldown and puts Evelynn back into demon shade.
Oleandervine4 votesNo, yes, no, no, no.
Evelynn got better clearing speeds, and if we grant her stealth from the beginning, with fast clear speeds, she becomes a bully you can't deal with.
W just needs a tiny reduction in the cook for charm at later levels. Eve is meant to be immobile. Same holds for her E. The range is fine, she isn't meant to fly to enemies directly from being unseen. That would destroy the game. R also doesn't need to dump her into stealth. It already blinks her, so that is enough for her to escape with.
Moonfall Saber2 votesEve litteraly can gank or do enough damage to get a kill early game. Her early game is terrible and for a jungler who can't gank pre 6
JooshBox1 votesI don't think it's actually that bad. Initially, I believed her early game was absolutely terrible but after playing her consistently for about a week I think her early game ganks are not the best but certainly doable. I'm getting pretty close to level 7 Mastery on her and don't think she should get too many if any buffs. Also, stealth pre 6 with her new kit would be absurd.
ExternalLink1 votesNo, yes, no, no, no.
Evelynn got better clearing speeds, and if we grant her stealth from the beginning, with fast clear speeds, she becomes a bully you can't deal with.
W just needs a tiny reduction in the cook for charm at later levels. Eve is meant to be immobile. Same holds for her E. The range is fine, she isn't meant to fly to enemies directly from being unseen. That would destroy the game. R also doesn't need to dump her into stealth. It already blinks her, so that is enough for her to escape with.
You're over-estimating the power of the Blink. It has a cast time, goes in a set direction and only transports her back 400 units. Every blink in the game is currently better than Evelynn's in terms of being a repositioning/disengage tool. Once people get used to playing against her, it'll be the case that when they see her casting R, they'll just run behind her meaning she hasn't escaped at all.
Giving her demonshade after her R cast is actually a pretty good idea imo.
I do agree that giving her stealth from level 1 is overkill.
W definitely needs to have the MR shred available on both normal and full proc to be worth using. She definitely needs a movement speed steroid somewhere in her kit right now. As it stands, without Mobis it's incredibly difficult to maintain your passive detection radius while stalking someone or running away. It's also really hard to get in range for the Q skillshot.
Moonfall Saber2 votesNot that Evelynn is unplayable but she is extremely predictable
ThunderSkelett1 votesso u don't want her to get buffed at all
Shuyin1781 votesThe whole point of her not being able to stealth until 6 is because of how much power that gives Eve. By removing a little of her early game power (like it is right now with delayed stealth) she can be given more power to use elsewhere.
Part of the reason old Eve was held back was her perma-stealth from when the game starts.
ThunderSkelett2 votesand where is elswhere?
Shuyin1781 votesOh I don't know, HP regeneration passive Bonus target damage on Q's skillshot target 1-2 second charm with 1200-1600 range that shreds 25%-35% of the target's MR And a semi-execute ult that can easily kill squishy champions and can act like a gap closer/escape if needed
The current problem with her is that people are trying to play her like old Eve. Eve use to be able to be the 1st one in the fight, now she can't. Nothing wrong with that either because she can easily deal with the enemy ADC either way. People need to understand that she's different than she use to be. Could she use a few buffs? Yeah, but players are the current thing holding her back the most.
ThunderSkelett1 voteshp regen brings nothing because her early is too weak(lategame it is fine i gues) Bonus damage on Q on the target is nothing and underwelming the W tells you where she is it takes 2.5 seconds for all that stuff bt try procing it hen your e has the range of your autos and q gets blocked by minions and if you want to Counter it just walk to a Tower or tank The gape Close on the ult dosen't matter because you Need the ult to kill someone and also get out "fast"
Late game your Team can't engage without you the adc has probably a dash /blink Flash and barrier/heal trykillinbg that hen 2 tanks and a shield supporter protect him you Need to relay on mistakes from the enemy to kill anyone
Shuyin1781 votesThe Regen is to keep you healthy while clearing and on your way to gank. This could be something to be buffed I'll admit When you gank, your teammate should be preventing them from going anywhere so they can't really run, and you should already be in position to pounce when the charm is ready to proc so the marker saying your direction is irrelevant Don't forget this is a team game, so you can tag the charm, then use your ult to gap close in order to set-off the charm for your team to focus and kill whoever. You don't need to 100% solo 100% of the time, that's not how this game is played ever even though most of us wish it was. Your team is suppose to fill in your champion's gaps, that's how it has always worked. Besides, that 2 seconds you have the enemy ADC charmed is 2 seconds your team isn't getting chunked by them which can give you a major advantage.
ThunderSkelett1 votesAlmost every other assasin in the game is not Team reliant
Shuyin1781 votesAnd? Having another assassin that does the exact same thing as every other assassin is boring and is why some overshadow every other thing of that role. If you have 20 champions for a single role, only 3 or 4 of them will be contested picks because they do the role better than the others who do the exact same thing as the top 3 or 4. There is nothing wrong with having a team-focused assassin, just like Ivern being a team-focused jungler or Shen being a team-focused tank. Things that work best with the team end up being the most useful in the end because they aren't selfish champions. What does Zed bring to a fight if he can't one-shot something? Nothing. What does Eve bring to a fight if she can't one-shot something? A hard CC that gives her team the advantage during fights and split attention looking for Eve when she tags her charm so they can't properly focus on the rest of your team. It's the little things that matter the most.
ThunderSkelett1 votesTeam_focuse assasin don't exist that is the complet difrent meaning what assasin should be look at renga no one says "oh no he is not weak just Team focused"
UnboundHades2 votescant take you seriously when you cant even spell correctly
ThunderSkelett1 votesXD what are you 12 judging People based on their gramma
that asaid comon tell me a real Argument give it a shot
Shuyin1781 votesI agree, I'm looking at it and wondering why even try.
Rexxiee1 votesLol just massively buff her whole kit like that right?
Sukishoo1 votesPassive : stealth no longer has a level 6 requirement. This is probably the stupidest part of her whole kit right now. This was the whole reason that warwick was reworked. Revert this
They changed this as it was easier to balance.