The only thing I hated about the Mordekaiser changes on 6.1

YumaS2Astral··27 votes·1,747 views

Is that Riot changed his roles to Marksman/Fighter.

Like... wtf? Mordekaiser ISN'T a Marksman. He doesn't even look like one. A marksman is supposed to be a champion that shoots on someone with a weapon. What Mordekaiser shoots?

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Lord Boltrix14 votes

Caitlyn Ha! Morde can't hit me all the way over here! Soraka Uh, I wouldn't make him mad, Cait. Caitlyn Oh what's the worse that he could-

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Mordekaiser An enemy has been slain. Soraka Mordekaiser Double kill! Caitlyn

Thresh Nice aim! Mordekaiser (retrieves Nightfall) Thanks, Olaf has been teaching me some tricks.

Dominick Destine6 votes

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What Mordekaiser shoots?

Maces.

Oh wait.... gg Roit

Spoofghoul3 votes

but you can enslave the opponent marksman

so he can be both fighter and marksman ^^

YumaS2Astral2 votes

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but you can enslave the opponent marksman

so he can be both fighter and marksman ^^

Then if you slave Khazix Zed Fizz Mordekaiser become an assassin?

Bus Boycotts2 votes

I hate taking him bot in solo queue since not many supports seem to know how to support him. I also kinda hate that sometimes it feels like your only good for ult and q.

YumaS2Astral4 votes

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I hate taking him bot in solo queue since not many supports seem to know how to support him. I also kinda hate that sometimes it feels like your only good for ult and q.

As an ADC replacement, Mordekaiser falls off late game. And HARD. Seriously, if you don't take advantage of your lead, you are an extreme liability for your team because Mordekaiser doesn't have the DPS required to be an ADC. Also because he is completely melee and vulnerable. And that's why I've always hated Mordekaiser as a bot laner, even when he was broken. There were times that enemies were smart enough to gank Mordekaiser and make him useless because the other ADC would just outscale him in terms of late game DPS.

I can't think of a champion that falls off as hard as an ADC Mordekaiser. At least champions that are known to fall off late game, like LeeSin Zed Nidalee Elise Pantheon are still useful in one way or another. Mordekaiser? Other than getting a ghost dragon he feels completely useless as a champion late game.

Bus Boycotts2 votes

Yap, late game morde is just there to ult something and proc his q then he's just kinda there.

Koechophe1 votes

You know, I've been playing Mord Top a lot recently, and he actually feels awesome late game. The thing is, he's awesome in the support of an ADC. He turns himself into a brick wall that soaks damage like you wouldn't believe and zones through virtue of his Q and Ult. I rarely get to interact with the whole ghost dragon thing, but honestly, he feels great as a top laner.

As long as he's not replacing an ADC, mord is fine lategame imho.

Retillin2 votes

So you mean he feels like a juggernaut? And not an adc.... hmmm it's like Riot might have swung and missed on this one.

AhhShucks1 votes

You play him bot lane with kindred in the jungle. That way you still have an ADC.

Problem solved.

Kaioko1 votes

"Mordekaiser doesn't have the DPS required to be an ADC"

Seriously? His weakness is by far his early game. His late game is completely lethal the issue being that if I'm playing as an ADC against him. I will NEVER let him get to that point before ending the game.

Champion Skin1 votes

The problem Mordekaiser have late game is that for one he is melee so more vulnerable to being CC'ed and kited to death and his damage is based around his Q and if he has it on cooldown he is basically useless

If being melee wasn't a huge problem one of the best ADCs in the game would be Tryndamere as he has amazing damage (Free crit and AD) and he is unkillable for 5 seconds and he even has a gap closer/escape and aoe slow (if they try to run)

Kaioko1 votes

His Q is definitely not his only damage source late game. Getting a ghost on a high auto attack based champion can definitely turn a whole fight in your favor very easily. Also I've always build a Rylais on morde for the sole purpose of being able to stick to my targets.

Champion Skin1 votes

Well the thing is Mordekaiser himself doesn't have a good way of getting to the most common auto attack based champions which are ADC's... he has no gap closer and he will probably not be able to kill and ADC with just his E+R (and maybe W) so he has to rely on his team to set up that kill for him (and not to mention if the enemy ADC is killed you probably win the fight anyways)

AlwaysByMySide2 votes

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Is that Riot changed his roles to Marksman/Fighter.

Like... wtf? Mordekaiser ISN'T a Marksman. He doesn't even look like one. A marksman is supposed to be a champion that shoots on someone with a weapon. What Mordekaiser shoots?

Wow, he really is listed with his primary role being marksman. That's so dumb, lol.

I guess it shouldn't be surprising, since their definition for it ("exceptionally weak in the early game" hurrr) is just as dumb.

Jeddy0172 votes

.........I'll be honest & no sugarcoating it,this is one of the dumbest thing I've seen Riot do.They gave the title of Marksman to a completely MELEE champ.

Sire Hippington1 votes

yea, but he somwtimes is played bot. Can't have a non-marksman show up bot dude...

YumaS2Astral2 votes

[{quoted}](name=Don Pavoni,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=uhmVEZAt,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2016-01-15T02:29:58.043+0000)

yea, but he somwtimes is played bot. Can't have a non-marksman show up bot dude...

Sometimes people play Thresh as an ADC but that does not make him a marksman either.

Actually, the only reason why there are people playing Mordekaiser ADC is because Riot is trying to shove him on this function and they advertise him as an option to be used on bot lane. Otherwise nobody would play him as an ADC.

Sire Hippington2 votes

i actually was reffering to the fact that outside of trollpicks/low elo cheese, only marksman are played bot as carries since S1.

Nightshade171 votes

I mean, he shoots his Gunblade... ;)

MunchCrunchLunch1 votes

if gunblades stacked active then he might just be one. i wish if he can just smack minions and launch them into enemies

For Carthage1 votes

Pain.

He shoots pain.

Retillin1 votes

It's so the system won't punish Morde players that take him bot when you are queueing up in the new drafts.

YumaS2Astral5 votes

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It's so the system won't punish Morde players that take him bot when you are queueing up in the new drafts.

If that's the reason then why don't they change Kennen into a Marksman/Mage? Kennen is much more viable than Mordekaiser as an ADC

Retillin2 votes

Honestly? Because they don't want Kennen in the bot lane (or at least don't care if he is) and they DO want Morde in the bot lane. That's it. 100%

Stars Shaper1 votes

And you can't find a single digit of ppl playing him bot on championgg xD

I am playing him constantly Top too expecially now that his shield decay and W got buffed.

Pandemic Punch1 votes

He doesn't shoot things but he is very capable of shoving his mace inside of shoots.

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