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Frozen Mallet's Slow Needs to Be Lowered. By A Lot.

Kivolan·Jun 12, 2017·1 votes·274 views

Rylais got nerfed into oblivion for being "too powerful" on a few select champions, while meanwhile any AD champion gets on you and you're permanently slowed until one of you dies. (Hint: It's generally going to be you, because Lifesteal is also busted in this game.)

2,600 gold, 300 health and 75 AP plus a 20% slow for 1 second on spells. 3,100 gold 700 health and 30 AD plus a 40% slow for melee and 30% slow for ranged for 1.5 seconds

Frozen Mallet needs something to keep it in line with Rylais' need to actually land spells rather than right click champions to permanently slow them. Only procs on Crits? Only procs every 5 autos? Lower the duration of the slow to .5 seconds so if I self peel myself with my entire kit I can actually have a chance at getting away? ANYTHING so that it's not a permanent slow, please.

TL;DR: Rylais was completely busted on DoT champs or spam champs... So why are auto attacks perfectly fine to permanently slow champions?

3 Comments

Dark NephthysJun 12, 20171 votes

item 3116 was nerfed because it became a core item on practically every mage and it was almost always bought on everyone kind of at the level of item 3165 is. While I'll admit that the slow from item 3022 is probably stronger then it should be but from what you are mainly complaining about seems to be more towards ranged champions using it. I feel 40% slow, while strong is fine on melee champions because it'll allow melee champions a chance to actually get on a target and stick to them (While also still giving that target a chance to get away if they had Flash/Dashes etc). I feel maybe lowering the range champions slow to 20% would be fine, but keep the melee champions slow at 40%. Most items/masteries that have a decreased effect for ranged champions are usually by half anyways so it wouldn't feel out of place.

Asayake 5150glowJun 12, 20171 votes

[{quoted}](name=Dark Nephthys,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=uhMWBIuI,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2017-06-12T18:35:48.726+0000)

was nerfed because it became a core item on practically every mage and it was almost always bought on everyone kind of at the level of is. While I'll admit that the slow from is probably stronger then it should be but from what you are mainly complaining about seems to be more towards ranged champions using it. I feel 40% slow, while strong is fine on melee champions because it'll allow melee champions a chance to actually get on a target and stick to them (While also still giving that target a chance to get away if they had Flash/Dashes etc). I feel maybe lowering the range champions slow to 20% would be fine, but keep the melee champions slow at 40%. Most items/masteries that have a decreased effect for ranged champions are usually by half anyways so it wouldn't feel out of place.

Personally I would nerf the health down to 600... right now it's a more effective tank item than half of the actual tank items.

Frozen Mallet rush Shen is tanky af and does a shit ton of damage and is impossible to get away from (unless you have a dash, but mainly I'd buy it against ranged, and they usually don't have a dash).

Dark NephthysJun 12, 20171 votes

[{quoted}](name=Cant Hold Me Now,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=uhMWBIuI,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2017-06-12T18:41:54.008+0000)

Personally I would nerf the health down to 600... right now it's a more effective tank item than half of the actual tank items.

Frozen Mallet rush Shen is tanky af and does a shit ton of damage and is impossible to get away from (unless you have a dash, but mainly I'd buy it against ranged, and they usually don't have a dash).

That's true and I agree that would also be a good spot to nerf the item. When you think about it, it's actually the 2nd highest HP item in the game. Only thing that is higher is item 3083 and that is suppose to be the item that is nothing but HP and regen lol. Well technically cinderhulk can be higher if we are talking about late game with 4+ HP items.

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