ACTUAL quote from the patch notes:
"Wukong's burst damage is too high for a champion who has both a dash and invisibility to reduce the amount of time opponents have to respond."
Meanwhile 
is still deleting people from stealth with one click.
The problem was NOT Wukong's abilities. The problem is your ridiculously overpowered items such as 
and 
that more than one champion are abusing. Nerf the fucking items already, not the champions.
Who Fed Ru27 votesI mean, Rengar is supposed to do that, Wukong isn't.
Rengar doesn't have a huge AoE knockup on top of that
Hayaishi71 votes[{quoted}](name=Who Fed Ru,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=0MnVintP,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-08-15T17:19:18.371+0000)
I mean, Rengar is supposed to do that, Wukong isn't. Rengar doesn't have a huge AoE knockup on top of that
If Rengar is supposed to do that he is horribly designed. (which he is)
Who Fed Ru14 votesDunno at least he doesn't knock me up when he jumps on me
Kivolan58 votes[{quoted}](name=Who Fed Ru,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=0MnVintP,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2018-08-15T17:36:46.073+0000)
Dunno at least he doesn't knock me up when he jumps on me
He doesn't need to knock you up. He literally one shots you.
Who Fed Ru35 votesLet's just say both champions are BS
Jbels5 votes[{quoted}](name=Who Fed Ru,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=0MnVintP,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2018-08-15T17:36:46.073+0000)
Dunno at least he doesn't knock me up when he jumps on me
Death is the hardest of CC
dunder kill9 votesSpeak for yourself
Kivolan18 votesI'll also say though, the Q nerf for Wu isn't going to keep him from one shotting squishies. Again, the problem is in the items.
LeafyGreen3 votesI totally believe this because before these two main items were added he was forced to build bruiser and rush black cleaver so he can shred resistances with his r to deal damage.
Eedat5 votesNot exactly, the tank rework + like 5 nerfs to BC (entirely because 
were abusing it and Riots absolute REFUSAL to make it different for ranged and melee) is what forced him out of bruiser. Riot hard nerfed all tank items and compensated tanks by adding power directly back into their kits. Wu just ended up with garbage tank itemization that was pointless to build. He has high AD ratios with trash base damages and also doesnt synergize with HP at all so 
that became staple items for bruisers all suck ass on him.
Wukong builds assassin because he has been absolutely forced into doing so. Bruiser build are now complete garbage on him over seasons of changes to the game. He has no other options anymore
Kazekiba4 votesdoesnt synergize with HP at all
You're aware what his passive is, right? I mean it barely exists but it incentivizes building HP since he gets a Gargoyle stoneplate worth of resists built in, during teamfights. I'm not saying I like his passive though and it needs a rework more than any of WK's other abilities.
The biggest issue IMO though is the armor shred on Q, since it will almost always be applied before Electrocute's damage - combined with Sudden Impact putting Lethality in Wukong's kit, it's not necessary. Having 10% more armor can and will be the difference between surviving the E-AA-Q-Electrocute combo as long as he's not fed or adding Ignite.
LeafyGreen1 votesIf anything you are just helping my point because those items that "suck ass" on him would otherwise be built if the items that were added didn't totally outclass the other ones like you said. He USE to rush black cleaver and now he doesn't. It is also not to mention that his kit synergizes with the new items much better also.
Eedat2 votesIts more a combination of the two. Wu could still build bruiser if those changes hadn't happened. Full AD Wukong has always been a thing but it was incredibly feast or famine and something you wouldnt want to do unless you were already snowballing hard. In the past even in games where I was very far ahead, I would still build bruiser if my team comp needed a beefier frontline. I feel thats how it would be now as well if not for the changes. As Wukong is now, his full AD build is still incredibly feast or famine which makes him a very polarizing champion
Weiner the Pooh17 votesGet ready for the Riot special. First nerf the champ, then gut the item, then don’t revert the champ nerf cuz eh.
dunder kill7 votesThis time its nerf the champ, nerf the champ again, nerf all their runes, then hit the itemization
JackMcSnipeyz15 votesI mean, rengar has no AoE teamwide knockup for teamfights.
But i agree with your point, duskblade+storm should share passives.
charge attack2 votesThey literally do. It was added in patch 8.16.
Rathar Dashing3 votesWhere exactly in the patch notes is that?
charge attack3 votesIt was in PBE for cycle but I guess it didn’t get pushed.
doodlebob66611 voteswukong's q pre nerf had a higher damage ratio than rengar's empowered q and he could burst you from stealth rengar you atleast get a warning when he ults and a team mate can lower his burst by being the marked target instead of a carry, Wu just stealthed in EQR killed your carry then wailed then dropped a ton of aoe damage. Rengar isn't fair with storm razor duskblade but even without those wu was unfair because the buffs he got to compensate for the duskblade nerfs were ridiculous
Cloud27310 votesACTUAL quote from the patch notes:
"Wukong's burst damage is too high for a champion who has both a dash and invisibility to reduce the amount of time opponents have to respond."
Meanwhile
The problem was NOT Wukong's abilities. The problem was your ridiculously overpowered items such as
No Wukong actually is a problem. Some of Rengar's abilities can actually be dodged. Can't say the same for Wukong. And Rengar's stealth isn't on a super short cooldown like Wukong's is. And Rengar's stealth has more counterplay because you get that little alert when he's close to you. I'm not saying Rengar is completely balanced, because he's definitely annoying to play against, but I think he's more balanced than Wukong is.
Yordle Xayah6 votesYeah Rito, only Wukong's burst is too high right now.
An Enemy Sutando6 votesDuskblade's bonus damage can no longer proc on crits
Stormrazor is now ranged only
Duskblade is now melee only.
Should solve this whole debacle
Eedat5 votesThey already said theyre going to make it so you cant stack + which I think is a bit simpler tbh. I dont think ranged/melee having access to one of these items is really a problem as long as they cant stack 2
Eryl Fauna5 votes[deleted]
BakedLotion5 votesWus w procs sudden impact because of the invis not the blink part
dunder kill3 votes
's stealth is technically a blink
[zombie-brand-facepalm]
Eryl Fauna3 votes[deleted]
dunder kill3 votesCongrats on believing bullshit on the wiki. Here is the ACTUAL description of his ability:
Wukong becomes Invisible for a short duration, leaving behind a decoy that will deal Magic Damage to enemies near it when Wukong's stealth expires.
Wukong becomes Invisible for 1.5 seconds, leaving behind a decoy that will deal 70/115/160/205/250 (+60% Ability Power) Magic Damage to enemies near it after 1.5 seconds. Stealth - Invisible: Wukong can only be revealed by nearby enemy Turrets or True Sight.
You realize that 100 units is as wide as Teemo right? Have you ever played the champion a single time? You realize that when he uses W he doesnt dash at all and is right on top of his clone? You realize there is no blink whatsoever and his clone is spawned in almost on top of him?
Eryl Fauna4 votes[deleted]
dunder kill3 voteshttps://na.leagueoflegends.com/en/game-info/champions/MonkeyKing/
Here ya go. RIOT's actual description. Even with a video showing Wukong not moving at all while pressing W. Wukong does not blink when using W. I mean you would know more than me right? You've read a wiki article. I only have hundreds of games on the champ xD. P.S. sudden impact is triggered by invisibility/camouflage
Eryl Fauna4 votes[deleted]
dunder kill3 votesLiterally has a video attached where you can actually view him not blinking
Eryl Fauna4 votes[deleted]
dunder kill4 votesNothing to show you thats not FROM THE ACTUAL DEVELOPERS OF THE GAME? Are you actually fucking trolling? Wow everyone, the actual developers of the game are not a valid source but a wiki page is. Are you actually blind? Wukong does not move a single inch. Just admit it lmao. You were straight up wrong and you have zero business discussing a champion when your understanding of them is an incorrect wiki page xD
Eryl Fauna4 votes[deleted]
dunder kill5 votesIt's not a discussion. It's not a debate. You're just straight up WRONG.
Jesus christ its cringe as fuck when people absolutely refuse to admit they're are wrong. Literally has video evidence proving him wrong and still clings on to the fact that that it's a "disagreement" xD. Wukong does not blink 100 units with his W. This is a lie. It's fact vs fiction. It's not open to interpretation. It's not an opinion.
BuT i DoNt TrUsT tHe DeVeLoPeRs Of ThE gAmE
Are you actually incapable of googling or what? Heres a random video of Wukong that it took me 2 seconds flat to find
https://youtu.be/Rs4lxJrpQD8?t=5m12s
WOW that sure is WEIRD how when he presses W he doesn't blink at all. That was sooooooo difficult to figure out.
Here man, let me get you the exact frame he uses W
Hmmmmmmmm weird how Wukong doesnt blink at all and is standing right on top of his clone. Isnt that the damnedest thing?
PichuKanna3 votesGuys, calm down. You are flaming unnecessarily and being rude, and Erol isnt listening. To be fair, I have no idea if wu W is a blink but i can see the argument for either away. By the way, there was a video where someone goes fountain to fountain by keep using wukong W iirc, too lay to find. But just like zoe ult, start and end position is everso SLIGHTLY different. But I don't know if that counts as blink
PB4UAME2 votesIt's coded as a blink, and procs anything that blinks proc. Additionally, anything that cancels or locks out mobility spells, such as roots, polymorph, grounded, etc also prevent W from being cast.
Its like the blink on Shaco's ult, only he doesn't phase out of the game entirely for a quarter of a second like Shaco does. It can even (at least it used to be able to) get you over the smallest walls in the game, such as the little walls near mid-river.
PB4UAME4 votesCompare what RIOT has on their website (this very website interestingly enough) to the wiki.
The wiki is updated far more often, is far more detailed, and has far more information on it than everything posted by RIOT combined together. The wiki has the most accurate and up to date information from data mining and extensive testing. No other resource aside from the game's actual code itself is better, but the wiki is based on data-mined code in part, so its as best and as close as we non-RIOTers can get.
Also, Wu's W is a blink and treated and coded as such, and procs and reacts to everything just like a blink.
The most telling thing is that you can't use W while under CC that would affect mobility spells. IF Wukong's W wasn't coded as either a dash or a blink, this would not be the case. As it is, it also procs things like Sudden Impact which trigger off of using mobility spells.
Eedat3 votesWukong's W isnt a blink though
Eryl Fauna4 votes[deleted]
Eedat4 votesI understand that but I wanted to let you know that Wukong does not have a blink on his W and that the Wiki is misinforming you. I've been a OTP Wukong player since Season 3 and he has never had a blink on his W. I'm going to attempt to get the Wiki to remove that. If I knew how to do that anyway ._.
DuskDaUmbreon4 votesWhat if, and hear me out here:
What if both of their burst damages are too high and too fast?
The two are not mutually exclusive. Rengar's base damage can also be too high. The problem is that his winrate didn't reflect an immediate need to nerf him.
Also, Rengar's stealth does still give you an opportunity to see him coming. It comes with a huge-ass marker over your head. You can't necessarily do anything against it, sure, but at least you get to know it's coming.
Thefrostyviking3 votesRiot have already promised to work something out against the stacking of duskblade, stormrazor and such items,........although personally i wish they were just a bit faster in doing so.
toastMonkey3 votesSeeing a lot of expected assassin hate. Ok. Enjoy that. LOL
I agree with OP on items. Overly synergized items threaten healthy gameplay because champions tend to get adjusted (nerfed) around the item synergy while they are strong, then after that the items get changed.
One will get removed or lose the synergetic aspect or they will get the synergetic aspect distinguished (like a unique passive, which I'm game for between and personally).
I would prefer the items and their synergy to be looked at instead of 's kit because I think the state of those items will inevitably change and the nerfs will harm him long term. If the items were distinguished, I would bet that would he his item of choice because he can utilize all of the elements of that item well with his kit.
