A random idea to change lee sin

Saixos·Dec 20, 2014·3 votes·517 views

Change his q dash to work like caitlyn's ult -> that is, it's blockable by other champions and has a line of fire. Would be a way to change lee's dynamics without changing any of his damage or changing his early game power, but later on in the game it's less punishing for the enemy team's carries to get hit by a q/someone on low health to get hit as another player can block it and put lee out of position. It'd just add another dynamic to lee sin without changing his damage or mobility, but increasing his counterplay.

Thoughts? I know 90% of my ideas are terrible, but I feel as though this one may work.

4 Comments

SEKAIDec 20, 20141 votes

Or make him actually blind, like RekSai when underground (somewhat).

SaixosDec 20, 20141 votes

We need to be realistic with our suggestions, as much as I hate lee sin I think that'd destroy him as a champion for anyone gold and below xP

SEKAIDec 20, 20141 votes

He I think should at least have lower sight range by default, considering his kit gives him so much sight I think they were originally aiming for that but somehow scrapped.

I personally would like that though.

Sozan5Dec 20, 20141 votes

What I would do:

Movement Speed: 345 (from 350) R - Dragon's Rage: Base damage: 200/325/450 +175% Bonus AD (from 200/400/600 +200% Bonus AD) Knockup duration: 0,75s (from 1s) Knockup distance: 900 (from 1200)

Why do I think his ult needs so harsh damage nerfs... Well, let's do some math here: 1 point of AD is worth 36g 1 point of AP is worth 21,75g

As such, AD is worth roughly 165,5% AP.

Now, let's look at Veigar's Primordial Blast (R):

600 + 120% AP damage.

As we stated before, AD is worth 165,5% AP, so if we changed it into AD skill it would look like this:

600 + 198,6% bonus AD.

So, Lee Sin's ultimate deals a bit more damage than Veigar ults, but is also on lower cd (90s on Veigar, 60s on Lee Sin), AoE and applies CC.

Of course, that doesn't mean you should build full AD Lee and try to one-shot people with his ultimate. But its damage is quite over the top (especially the base part on higher ranks) considering how much utility it brings.

Also, his Q should get hit a bit too, 340 +180% bonus AD +8% of enemy missing health if he lands it and follows with his dash - seriously that amount of damage on basic skill is rare.