why dont we have pure soloQ?

While there is no evidence of lulu kog being duo que, I do 100% agree with solo Q being purely Solo. And your not alone, every youtuber I watch has complained about it being unfair when a challenger duo que bot gets matched with diamond and master teir players.

1st challenger facing anything but challenger is unfair

2nd if they are duo qing even without coms, they are experenced with each other. They know exactly when the other is going in and .2 of a second = a kill which they don't have a problem with.

As for counter arugments in the future, that may land about Que times with challenger being restricted to challenger. League's last reported player base known per month was 100million.

So sure itll be longer than the que's but 100million players odd are there will be 10 challengers. So they do get to play.

On lower ello's the effect is not as bad, though still statically they are about 60-70% to win again vs 50% 50% to win as normal meaning an unfair advantage between 10-20% simply by people being a duo que.

Imagine a true SOLO queue where you play 1v1.

Wish that ever existed... Oh, right!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gXRFpbk3Xac

Because casuals apparently don't like the idea of a pure solo queue, and the casual audience is Riot's main focus since 2016 when they introduced Dynamic Queue.

That isn't me trying to roast anyone or be rude, it is a fact. Most "casual" people come in with friends, because of friends, or bring in friends. They don't want to play alone, and Riot prefers them for some reason.

I would LOVE a solo ONLY queue, but at this point, the fact Riot is still keeping that terrible Flex queue that is a mess on top of a mess, it is clear they don't care about it.

I've always been really curious why this suggestion keeps coming up. Can somebody explain to me why people want a Solo queue when this is a team game? Isn't finding other players and playing together as a team part of what is being tested by the current ladder?

I guess I just don't understand. I haven't played ranked since S2 and I never really wanted a Solo environment back then.

[sg-lux-2]

I will tell you why. Because noobs and kids who pay money from their parents pockets will stop playing if they wont get elo boosted by their duo partners. We had a nice prove of that when riot refused to give us soloq and forced people for a year to play dynq. Balance of this game is also turned into "give those who cant play well ability to climb for free by making champs that win by default with point and click kit, immortality etc". Every tank change, supp changes (ardent and not even ardent. Making heal shields supp too strong overall) was aimed to keep the money from those players coming. Veteran players who want to play mechanically harder champs are not considered be cause everytime those kids on point and click freelo champs cry about nerf because they got outplayed by someone who uses champion kit to full potential and it gets hard nerfed in result. So here is the reason.

We have been asking that for years. Riot will never do it. [zombie-nunu-bummed]

because we want to have the ability to queue with friends.

How else will the streamer’s girlfriends get to diamond?

Think of them man /s

I'd say there are a LOT of valid reasons why people want a pure solo queue. For one a lot of solo players are basically forced into groups to fill their needs, and then treated like the outcast in the team, ganged up on when they have a bad game, etc. There's also the issue of being queued against groups(I have had a lot of games where I was queued with a bunch of solos and one duo vs 2 duos or 3 man + a duo, not fun). Solo players are basically the black sheep forced into a group who hate them.

Unfortunately this is also the reason why there isn't a solo only game mode. All the premades need someone to push around and flame at fill their groups.

Honestly? Because Solo Queue that is purely Solo Queue would result in no one but people at the very top tier climbing, because the skill levels of Silver - Plat aren't all that different on average (there are subtlle differences that impact games, but Plat usually still struggles carrying games in Silver in a 1v5 where 4 people might as well be int feeding/afk)

We'd basically have Bronze, an overglutted Silver with 50% or worse win rates, no gold, no plat, and a Diamond/Challenger group.

The truth is, Most of Gold and Plat are good team players but not mechanically able to climb higher. So, they thrive when they play with someone they know they work well with, not 4 randoms who they have to give an abridged coaching at level 1 that the team won't even listen to. Every game is a struggle solo at these tiers (including Silver), and even if you have an 8-9 KDA every single game, you're very likely to lose enough to only have a 48% win rate.

This account right here was started September. I placed Gold V, and ground up to a Plat IV MMR. Then I started playing the new Evelynn. Even though every game, I was going between 9/1/8 to 28/9/18, I still dropped like a rock, because I was solo queueing, and teams just didn't know how to play with Evelynn yet. They would throw away every game in free farm i gave them, and turn 20/4's into 28/40's.

But you know..... when i played with a Duo, I had a 68% win rate overall. if my friends were on 24/7, i easily could have pulled this account out of the pit. But alas.... 94% of my games are solo, and always a struggle, always hyper carries, but also often losses.

To my knowledge, because in lower elo it: A) Matters less than in Challenger B) Is all around less enjoyable

I think Riot views it as just some way of making ranked more fun, and before people come in and say "Ranked isnt for fun" True but it has to be at least a tiny bit enjoyable. Sure some people can enjoy playing solo, and some think duo is not true of where people SHOULD be. Do you know where those people belong? Higher Elo. Because they take it very seriously obviously they want to BE the challengers etc, where there ARENT duo and it shows exactly solo skill.

However A LOT of people play the game, and not everyone wants to CLIMB THE LADDER, there are people who just want to be gold for the rewards, or play bronze 5 games because they know they are bronze 5. And the amount of people HARD on that grind is significantly less than overall ranked players. AND how do you make it so it isnt 100% balls-to-the-wall tryhard? With a friend.

Playing with 1 FRIEND overall makes ranked much less of a complete, salt-high induced rage-fest.

Sure early on it kinda sucks to lose to a duo group. However if you DESERVE to climb that shouldnt matter to much. Hell play around them: "So this Bot is obv duo, were not, SO lets roam mid to make sure other lanes win" Shit like that.