why does autofill prioritize over fill?

Good point. But honestly picking 5 roles in order is so much more effort I'd rather just go back to pick order bc I'm lazy lol

Even when fill isn't involved it falls on it's face sometimes. I've had games where I had declared support/fill and someone else got autofilled support when they had the role I was filled into declared as one of their preferred roles. The system is a mess.

It was one of the things they discussed but "Fill" was supposed to be a no hassle option. You can play anything so there's no need to choose yourself. You can adapt. If you would've been given to pick your preferred roles when you pick Fill (organized list or roles by pref.), it would've been just easier to pick two roles and get Autofilled because it doesn't matter to you.

Yeah, the other way was really bad at every rank. Autofill was a huge improvement. There really isn't any contest which way is better. Fill went from being practically meaningless to being somewhat meaningful. Role Exclusion was one of the worst ideas RIOT ever implemented in ranked.

Not to belittle your experience but anecdotal evidence like yours leaves out the vast majority of the time that autofill does it's job well. However, anecdotal evidence like yours is still very valuable bc it shows that there's room for improvement, even in a system that works most of the time.

The most valuable aspect of autofill imo is that I rarely see people fighting over roles anymore and it's a lot easier to develop strategies before the game even starts because of it. I like this and I want this to stay.

But thats because people complained about "Fill". People were complaining that "Fill" = "Support", reducing the number of players who would go"Fill" if it meant an even distribution of roles. How many posts did we see a few months ago that said, "I dont mind supporting 1/5 games, but going 'Fill' and getting 'Support' 100% of the time makes me not want to 'Fill'"?

Its illogical to blame Riot for actually fixing the problem. Now when you "Fill" it sometimes really does feel like a random chance for any role. Someone might get autofilled into support, but it fixed the problem the boards were in an uproar about - that 99% of the time, going "Fill" meant going "Support".

No, that isn't the case. They have discussed and explored many options but it always comes at a price of increasing complexity and time for the pre-queue experience. They could make a half hour questionnaire about how you'd like to play the game, which role and whatnot to make sure you get what you want but increasing the preference count makes the queue times longer by default.

The more boxes you have to put the players with various preferences in, the more time it takes for the matchmaker to find you that perfect team you signed up for. Likewise, one universal box would mean that the matchmaker would take no time finding you a team but at the cost of having constant clownfiestas.

##The solution isn't to make the matchmaker ridiculously simple or overly complex. Balance needs to be set at a point where both queue times are reasonable and teams are on equal grounds.

All the time, it's why I ask if anyone was autofilled and wants to trade when Im filling.

I think they mean that when they choose "fill" as their role, they still somehow end up with someone who was auto filled in their lobby, even though "fill" is supposed to fill in any missing roles.