"Just CC her"

Hayaishi·Nov 11, 2014·7 votes·1,559 views

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XWJPA0jW9mQ

Look at how much time there was to CC her!

21 Comments

DarthSpectrumNov 11, 20146 votes

Generally, by the time a Katarina has started her combo, it is too late to stop it without at least 1 or 2 casualties.

You have to CC her BEFORE she all in.

QuephaNov 11, 20142 votes

did that graves somehow find an item build to make him squishier than base stats? it looked like he lost around 4/5 health before her ult started dealing damage.

HayaishiNov 11, 20144 votes

did that graves somehow find an item build to make him squishier than base stats? it looked like he lost around 4/5 health before her ult started dealing damage.

Idk, but Katarina's ult does more of the damage when it starts.

SouL1essNov 11, 20143 votes

Katarina QEW dealing 70-80% of a zero bonus defense adc is nothing to be surprised at.

Then it takes half a second for Katarina ult to kill Graves then to kill everyone else.

Long story short, Katarina is similar to any instant-delete assassins when her enemy has no bonus resistances.

BlackRavenNov 11, 20141 votes

Katarina QEW dealing 70-80% of a zero bonus defense adc is nothing to be surprised at.

Then it takes half a second for Katarina ult to kill Graves then to kill everyone else.

Long story short, Katarina is similar to any instant-delete assassins when her enemy has no bonus resistances.

zed has zhonyas and can travel a long distance every 5 seconds late game with a reset on it. yup

SouL1essNov 11, 20141 votes

I mean damage wise, not anything else. I also said "similar," and did not say Katarina is exactly equal to Zed.

I'm trying to explain to Quepha that it is very easy for Graves (or any other champion, really) to lose 80% of his health before Kat ults, assuming he had no items that grant bonus resistances (HP, Mr, etc).

QuephaNov 11, 20141 votes

Katarina QEW dealing 70-80% of a zero bonus defense adc is nothing to be surprised at.

Then it takes half a second for Katarina ult to kill Graves then to kill everyone else.

Long story short, Katarina is similar to any instant-delete assassins when her enemy has no bonus resistances.

so what you're saying is that the adc should build magic resist against a fed katarina?

SouL1essNov 11, 20141 votes

You should be building magic resist before she gets fed................

BlackRavenNov 11, 20142 votes

fuck kind of drugs are you on? are you trying to say any ap champion is above the balance level of horrific? if so keep it on the downlow dont wanan keep these zhonyas spamming scums who think they actually use brain cells to play their lane!

HayaishiNov 11, 20141 votes

Graves has nothing to do in that, she clearly ripped apart the entired enemy team despite being exhausted and CC'd because the horribly designed resets.

I'll like to know how is that balanced.

DarthSpectrumNov 11, 20141 votes

Like all reset champions, they are either game breaking-ly OP, or absolute trash.

Consider it from this perspective, it Kat is incapable of getting a kill and resetting her skills, she does no damage after unloading her combo. In which case, she becomes a liability for her team as she has to wait out her cool downs or until a teammate gives her an assist. In this case, she becomes a terrible 1 v 1 champion and is only viable in team fights.

In the other scenario, Kat can consistently kill an enemy by herself with her combo alone. This puts her on a more even footing in 1 v 1 scenarios, but it also means that if she gets one kill in a fight, she will kill everyone else as well.

Personally, I am okay with a Katarina being nerfed to the former state; however, a better change would simply be to make her damage slower so people can actually react.

An easy way is to put a travel time on her E, have her ult do consistent DPS over its channel, and adding a slight delay on her W.

ThePurpleKnightNov 11, 20141 votes

yea no kidding, recently had a ranked game as Skarner, enemy sucked all got carried by a Katarina, any other midlane champ and we would have won, but even with me doing nothing but preparing to ult her, I still wasn't fast enough to save my own full hp life.

DaSneakyGitNov 11, 20141 votes

I just came to say that holy shit...that announcer dude needs to shut the hell up. Wow....I'd have to watch this stuff muted.

SionideCNNov 11, 20141 votes

Not only did kat have 3 levels on graves, but in order to instantly kill him with her QEW combo (she left him at about 200 health) she'd need to have around 1k ap or enough mpen to penetrate an equivalent amount of MR, this is assuming graves has no mr runes, items, masteries and isn't stacking true grit (which he was) if kat is that fed you lost the game already, if ANYONE is that fed you lost the game already.

SouL1essNov 11, 20141 votes

Graves was out of combat for more than 3 seconds. He had no true grit stacks when Kat engaged on him. He basically had no magic resist.

AloneInTheCrowdNov 11, 20141 votes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XWJPA0jW9mQ

Look at how much time there was to CC her!

Bronze subwars .

Drunk RummateNov 11, 20141 votes

she blows up super quick and she's melee range... just kill her

HayaishiNov 11, 20141 votes

she blows up super quick and she's melee range... just kill her

Refer to the video for an answer -.-

SaelaniNov 12, 20141 votes

Jax wasted his cc. I would go on that if i was that cat too. IT was poor play by the purple team.

Epilogue of LifeNov 12, 20141 votes

Kat would be no problem if Talon had his silence--just go in and drop her to 1/5 or less health, force zhonya/flash, and then walk out with stealth. Too bad a 1 second silence on someone with no sustain, reliable escape, or good poke, and deals only one type of damage is too OP. Boo hoo hoo.

MagicapplesNov 11, 2014

just need to watch her and be careful. things like hex drinker and zhonyas own her. you dont have to CC her. You just have to stop her from getting a reset.