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Change surrender so only a majority of 3 is required to forfeit the game

SaltyToplaneGoat··4 votes·794 views

I am sick of premades holding me hostage in pointless games. Top is even, jungle also, mid won but is now losing at 2/5 and wait what is that at botlane? A collective 0/9/0 from the premade pair? Oh boy, the enemies snowballs away brutally with objectives and towers

AND GUESS WHO REFUSES TO SURRENDER? The fucking premade.

Some games are simply lost - well theoretically I could try to stall 40 minutes until our team has attained lategame state, but this is 40 minutes of torment that I am not willing to waste my time on, especially when I see already that some players are clearly incapable of basic positioning skills and the like and any possible lategame teamfight is lost be default when looking at that.

Saying all games and fights are potentially not decided is absolutel ignorant. It's like letting a local village soccer club play against Real Madrid and then be surprised when one shafts the other 40-0.

Matchmaking has always been kinda wonky and I'm not really complaining about that, but the problem of that combined with the snowballs-stompfest-nature this game has become is definetly a problem. And I'd rather not waste my times in lost games and just jump into a new one.

A long stalled game ending in a loss is 45 mins. 25 mins could have been saved by a reasonable surrender at 20. In those 25 mins I could have played AND POTENTIALLY WON another match. Instead I have to waste my time with uncarryable morons I know will never win, but keep me forced in the worst waste of my time.

19 Comments

Hyperiön3 votes

Never surrender. Every game is still winnable until they are taking your nexus

LordGeovanni2 votes

Have taken you nexus.

Divine Winds1 votes

No because a 10k + gold difference is unwinnable

The 14th Angel2 votes

No, i think for those that press YES should lose LP, and that one person that says no doesnt lose any.

Divine Winds3 votes

Thhhhaaatssss dumb. IDK if you're being serious or just joking, but if you do that then no one will want to surrender. If a game is losing, and you don't want to waste time just to lose, then that's why you surrender.

The 14th Angel3 votes

exactly. thats the point, dude, its low elo.... its winnable. you shouldnt just surrender to just get outa the game, this isnt korea where you pay to play. im sure your at home on the computer, got nothing else to do with your life... just play the damn game.

Divine Winds2 votes

No it isn't winnable. Believe it or not, that 18/2 Riven can actually press buttons!

In low elo, the reason games aren't winnable is because the lane snowballs to the point where even if the winning team makes a drastic mistake, they still win because the gold difference can't be patched by a simple ace. In plat+ if the winning team makes a small mistake, the other team should be good enough to capitalise on that, since the higher the ELO the lower the average gold difference is.

Divine Winds2 votes

And you also cannot generalise everyone. People actually have lives. We read. Do work. Study. Go out with friends. Have a social life

Spending another 20-30 minutes just to feel bad about yourself just isn't worth it. You could be winning another game with that time.

Crawford8811 votes

I can play the next game with people I might not hate playing with. If I have an hour or so to play, I can get another game in, instead of having to spend an extra 15 minutes being pummeled by the fed lane opponent of the idiot who fed ten deaths and still thinks he is going to turn it around.

LordGeovanni2 votes

play the fucking game you signed up to play or dont play the game at all and avoid wasteing your time all together

Oleandervine1 votes

If 3/5 picks in their "Lottery Pick" for All For One is considered a Majority Lockout that invalidates every other pick, then the same should hold true for Surrender votes.

Divine Winds2 votes

but lottery pick is for fun surrendering isn't We're talking about ranked here.

Oleandervine1 votes

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but lottery pick is for fun surrendering isn't We're talking about ranked here.

That is beside the point. Ranked or not, surrender is for the same purpose - ending a game you know is a loss. If you are hoping to go far in ranked, you should be very aware of when your team can do well and when you need to chalk up your loss and move on.

LordGeovanni2 votes

you cant know its a loss before the nexus explodes because by definition you have not yet lost. You can only know just that you no longer want to put in effort to win which is most likely the biggest contributing factor to causing the loss.

Divine Winds1 votes

I'm all for surrendering... But not with 3/2. 4/1 is good because 80% of the team has decided they've lost. 3/2 means that only 60% have decided. that means another 40% thinks they could win, and that percentage is too close to 50/50.

Quepha1 votes

No way is the game you described worthy of surrendering.

Crawford8811 votes

I would surrender a game where botlane was pushed to inhibitor towers and the opposing team was up by 10 kills, 4 towers and a dragon at 20 minutes.

Quepha1 votes

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I would surrender a game where botlane was pushed to inhibitor towers and the opposing team was up by 10 kills, 4 towers and a dragon at 20 minutes.

That seems silly because I know I've come back from games like that.

Surr20plz1 votes

Here is what should happen:

If the vote goes 3 yes to 2 no three times in a row, then the 3rd time the game should honor the surrender.

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