Patch 5.5: A breath of fresh air

Eedat··39 votes·3,459 views

Patch 5.5. A breath of fresh air. Awesome patch overall. Seeing the return of champs like Amumu, Sej, Rammus, and Naut. Even saw a Zac being pretty effective one game. Have to say I haven't seen a single Vi or J4 in the 15ish games I've played so far on it. So there is much less threat of seeing the early 'jump on a squishy and blow them up' junglers.

Cinderhulk is amazing. Once you get it you can actually clear camps in between ganks with moderate efficiency so you don't fall off. The best part is the +25% bonus HP. It makes it feel like you can actually be a tank again without instantly being melted in team fights. This is a trade off for roles like ADC because you don't have to worry about being jumped on and blown up as much early game, but you do have to spend more time gunning down a tank in the late game. Overall its awesome because I felt like tanks didn't really survive more than a few seconds in team fights before. It feels more balanced in team fights. If I die I feel its more something I did wrong or being outplayed as opposed to "FUCKING BULLSHIT™"

It makes me want to try a bunch more of the newly buffed junglers. I've played mostly Sej with a few Amumu games so far on the patch. Maybe I'll try Naut, Voli, or Trundle next. Speaking of which, it feels awesome just being able to say that. Not having to pick one of the 3 or 4 meta junglers to feel relevant in the jungle is amazing.

Luden's Echo seems actually fairly balanced and can be used on a wide variety of champions. It can be used to add a bit more burst to a kit or to make continuous poke a little stronger. Haven't really seen enough of it to comment too much on it though. Righteous glory got buffed and you see it more frequently now, especially on champs like Rammus and Volibear. I'm glad that these champs who don't really have a gap closer other than run at the enemy have a bit easier time in the meta where every other popular champ can kite them somewhat easily

Bard. Well tbh I don't like him. He has almost 0 early game damage and no lane presence. His CC is unreliable at best. His kit punishes him strongly for staying in lane and not roaming around to pick up his chimes. This is problematic because it leaves his ADC in a 2v1 lane frequently. It also means he gets caught out a lot while roaming around, frequently through the enemy jungle. His ult has screwed me quite a few times already and has gotten me killed or saved an enemy on more than one occasion. I don't like him so far, but that being said he's only been out for a few days so I'm giving people time to figure out what to do with him.

There are many, many more positive changes on the PBE as well. Leblanc has some minor nerfs. Irelia getting a nerf to the damage on her E (to be fair honestly I think Irelia is fairly balanced already). Singed getting a buff on the damage to his Fling. Some Evelynn buffs incoming as well. They're still tweeking Veigar after he got hit hard in patch 5.4. They're even giving buffs to champs that have been forgotten about like Aatrox and Galio. A lot of poke heavy champs seem to be getting mana cost reductions to counter Riot nerfing mana regen this season. I've even heard that Lux is getting some mana cost reduction. They're changing Sion's ult so that if he runs into someone and the damage kills them, he keeps running though them onto the next target.

Overall an awesome patch with more good changes on the way. Can't wait to see the next patch. Keep these kind of patches coming RIOT :)

29 Comments

AetherKingdom18 votes

"Return of Sej" As if sej hasn't been a top tier jungler for like 2 months.

Rinky Dinky13 votes

She hasn't.

Was she good? Yes. Was there a reason to pick her over the top 5? No

Malix Farwin8 votes

{quoted}

She hasn't.

Was she good? Yes. Was there a reason to pick her over the top 5? No

was there a reason to pick any jg over to the top 5

Rinky Dinky1 votes

Exactly my point

Luckily, that has changed,

Schteltzer1 votes

yes

Big Lincoln14 votes

honestly she's probably in the top 5 now

KaisadiIIa5 votes

Nerfs are coming.

Acadiaum4 votes

"Compensation"

Big Lincoln14 votes

patch 5.6

"we realized that these changes actually made some tanks good, sorry about that"

terkmc3 votes

If she gets Veigar'ed I quit

hashinshin1 votes

Undoubtably. She was top tier BEFORE the changes. Now she has mega-sunfire in addition to her early game being harder to punish due to jungle being weak now.

Raptamei3 votes

{quoted}

She hasn't.

Was she good? Yes. Was there a reason to pick her over the top 5? No

That goes for any role in any lane in any patch. Not enough differentiation, too many champions.

Rinky Dinky1 votes

That really is not the case atm.

As I have pointed out before, more champions are being played than ever before in every role atm, the jungle was the final straw.

Raptamei1 votes

{quoted}

That really is not the case atm.

As I have pointed out before, more champions are being played than ever before in every role atm

No.

Silents4291 votes

{quoted}

She hasn't.

Was she good? Yes. Was there a reason to pick her over the top 5? No

Other then the fact her Ult, and Knock back screws Lee, J4, and Vi over?

Eedat5 votes

Ok..... point out literally one thing you disagree with just to be difficult....

AetherKingdom4 votes

I also think that Amumu wasn't weak or put down and the same for nautilus. I don't think tank junglers were weak at all honestly. inb4 i dont play tank junglers.

Big Lincoln5 votes

i agree with you except for nautilus

Sejuani was actually very close to being one of the best thanks to her mini-rework and invades not generally being worth it. Her damage output can get pretty cray if you give her long enough to use it

Nautilus felt largely underwhelming before because he could be ignored after a while and he suffered from a bad early game a lot more. I think he's in a good spot now, if a little too mana-hungry when he only needs to clear

ABlueQuaker5 votes

#On PBE

Hunter's Machete Passive - Jungler: Health regen lowered to 6 from 7. New Effect: The amount of health gained per second increases to 12 while below 50% health (no regeneration is gained while in combat with cowardly monsters)

KomePrePongo3 votes

Sejuani instaban. Buff to tank jungler? Sejuani was okay before the buff. Now she's op. Ban her, trust me.

HeWolf2 votes

I completely love this patch but I dind't know how much I did until I read this post.

It makes me feel like the Sun is shining again (although it's 2 am). Maybe it's the victory effect from the ranked game I just played. Anyway, you expressed my feelings about those changes really well.

However, I think that once the meta stabilizes again, Sejuani will be picked in 30% games if not banned because much beefy much damages. That nonetheless will be another day, today this patch is great and humankind has still hope.

Klubhouse2 votes

I've been playing Jungle Cho-Gath and I gotta say, I've had three great games with him so far. I love to play tanks so it's really nice to see some general tank buffs to the jungle and I love Bami's Cinder building into Sunfire's cape.

But that being said, do you think the 25% bonus health passive on Cinderhulk is a thing that should be looked into in regards to certain champions? Cho-gath I feel is especially strong due to how his feast stacks pair extremely well with the 25% bonus health.

my game build looks close to item 3102 item 3721 item 3111 item 3091 item 3143 item 3110

Assuming full feast stacks, I have around 4.7k health with this build. I don't think I've seen my health total get as high as it has been (without spamming warmogs) with Cinderhulk.

perhaps the 25% bonus health isn't that big of an issue since we have so many "percentile damaging" abilities, I just wanted to get some opinions. I remember them trying percent bonus health on Spirit of the Golem back in season 4, I wonder if "Bonus percent health" is gonna be the newest trend with tank items.

Thanks!

rightmike006 votes

Protip:NEVER BUILD item 3711 your better off with item 3709

Klubhouse1 votes

I'll keep that in mind, I was told that poacher's knife works well on Cho-gath due to him doing counter jungling and getting quick feast stacks with the cool down educion.

But I'll that in mind!

Jamatrix6661 votes

Patch 5.5 is a nice step in the good direction and from what I have seen on the PBE, 5.6 gives me a good feeling also!

TheGrandAlliance1 votes

Bard

chide da jungler1 votes

Sej's plat+ winrate has gone up by maybe ~2% and thats likely a reflection of combined tank buffing and assassin nerfing. She has barely changed, but I would expect to see a slight nerf to some of her dmg numbers in the next few patches,

Silents4291 votes

I don't know how you forgot to mention the buff to the machete itself.

Not to mention everyone on the boards are just going to move on to something else to complain about.

kcStranger1 votes

+1. Awesome patch overall; please continue like this.

Selfish plug: After handing out those Lux buffs, can we address the mana costs for Syndra next please. (And for the record: With Syndra's Q nerfed, she's nowhere near the bully she was before. We can afford to make her able to throw out more than two rounds of spells without going oom.)

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