Garen proccing CONQ spins is too much.

Wild Geese·10/10/2019, 8:52:38 PM·7 votes·1,797 views

It's absurd trying to fight Garen now, since he'll probably already have 1 stack on conq before he spins from hitting you, it revs up in less than a second. Completely bullying you out of any trade.

Even playing Fiora the lane phase was a complete headache, I needed to save all my Q's to get away from him just spinning on me. Yes, I still could still edge him out in a duel later in the game but the entire laning phase was just overwhelming, which if Fiora doesn't beat him now, who exactly would aside mages/ranged? Does Darius even win anymore?

I think it was fine that Garen could get good spins off in teamfights, and generally seemed better, I'm not crapping on the buff but it seems to have too much power in the early game, Since his spin is now so much stronger - maybe if he can proc conq he should have to level it like having the cooldown from a static 8 to something like 12/11/10/9/8, just saying if the ability is flat stronger there has to be trade offs. The W nerf is only affecting his lategame, which does fine anyway due to improved scaling elsewhere.

17 Comments

Jar Jar binks l10/10/2019, 9:26:13 PM7 votes

He's the immobilest champion in lol. U shouldn't beat him 1v1 that easily .

Where fiora could see some nerfs

MetalGear Jotaro10/10/2019, 11:40:47 PM2 votes

oh nooo,poor fiora found an opponent, who can beat her in a 1 v 1 earlygame ,what a disaster NERF!!! IMMEDIATELY !!

Pika Fox10/10/2019, 11:03:05 PM1 votes

It can only proc on the closest target to him; fight him in your minion wave with a minion between you and him.

Mihalikb10/11/2019, 1:35:34 AM1 votes

He stacks Conq slower than Urgot, Jax, Pantheon, Darius (he gets stacks from bleed ticks) or even Mordekaiser who stacks it instantly with his passive. While having none of the CC, or ranged attacks or gap closers of any of the above.

You've been a bit jaded by being able to freely bully Garen up until this point.

You can still easily win laning phase, you just shouldn't be picking Conq into him. You pick Grasp and focus on frequent quick trades. Then at lvl 6 ult him right after he used E. You will kill him before E comes off cool down again.

Wild Geese10/11/2019, 2:14:47 AM1 votes

JUST LOL suggesting I go grasp Fiora like against her hardest matchups? I guess you don't play Fiora but Garen used to be the easiest matchup, now running grasp is supposed to be the thing like you're fighting a Vladamir or something, I guess I'll take ignite while I'm at it LUL.

Also saying Darius procs CONQ faster than Garen? Darius cannot get 5 hits in 1.5 seconds like Garen can. Neither can Illaoi. Mordekaiser and Urgot, about tied; but they have much more cooldowns than Garen, until Urgot hits level 9 that is.

Sorry but Garen is just broken. But I guess Riot will never hear it cuz the Garen mains will just fanboy the threads and downvote them and tell people to "gitgud".

LightswornLance10/10/2019, 11:27:51 PM1 votes

Wait, so you lost lane to garen... as fiora... XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

5050BS10/10/2019, 10:53:39 PM1 votes

Yep Illaoi cant proc off of Spirits but Garen can off of spins....

Its the same as if they let Teemo proc off of his E poison.