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Nasus is /very strong/ in low elo and is complete trash the higher you take him. This buff doesn't change any of that, it just amplifies the problem. He'll stomp twice as hard at low elo but all the punching power in the world won't make him more than a Anubis shaped heavy bag against skilled players.
Daddy Ants26 votesJungle Nasus...
He'll get 12 stacks from EVERY CAMP.
12 stacks from EVERY SCUTTLE.
Bob the Toastr10 votesOnly 12 from each camp? I guess you're not hitting the small ones lol
doiminat0r36004 votesMore like, atleast 12 stacks.
Depending on your cooldown, it might not be economical early game to Q every small monster.
kargish1 votesBut still gets counterjungled and provides nothing in the early game
Daddy Ants1 votesBut still gets counterjungled and provides nothing in the early game
In Gold and below, Junglers barely understand what things like counterjungling is.
Nasus Jungle is going to be a menace in Gold and below.
Electro5225 votesYou'd be surprised as to how many low elo junglers counter jungle regularly.
Are all of them successful? No, but they do understand what it is and how to do it at least to a basic degree.
Fire Blaustoise2 votesI'll honestly dodge as usual, if i have a Nasus in my team. This champ is trash.
Tormentula18 votesThis looks more like a high elo buff to me.
They don't miss cannons as much.
Monstermushmush23 votesThis looks more like a high elo buff to me.
They don't miss cannons as much.
It's pretty easy to kill cannons with Q on nasus.
Z3Sleeper2 votesNot if you get pressured/zoned off them.
This change makes the cannon even higher priority than before. People already punish any champs going for a cannon.
Monstermushmush1 votesNot if you get pressured/zoned off them.
This change makes the cannon even higher priority than before. People already punish any champs going for a cannon.
I get that... but the other guy was saying that that high elo players don't miss cannons much. He didn't account for the zoning that people do in high elo.
Z3Sleeper4 votesYupyup. High elo definitely farms better, but they also deny better.
This change just makes it so that the high elo Nasii that go for cannons are more appropriately rewarded for the quarter plus of their health in damage they probably just took for it.
Risk/reward.
Poske2 votesThis looks more like a high elo buff to me.
They don't miss cannons as much.
Its not a high elo buff because he still wont reach anything and ll pop 3 seconds within a fight
Tormentula1 votesIts not a high elo buff because he still wont reach anything and ll pop 3 seconds within a fight
He's going to need a rework to ever fix that.
Lhuhz11 votesNasus has has a fantastic winrate in low elo and is complete trash the higher you take him.
on Iron https://lolalytics.com/ranked/worldwide/iron/champion/Nasus/
Then on Bronze, Silver and Gold has around 49/50% winrate
I dont know why you think that he has a fantastic winrate on low elo cuz he doesn't.
Wild Geese2 votes
Then on Bronze, Silver and Gold has around 49/50% winrate
I dont know why you think that he has a fantastic winrate on low elo cuz he doesn't.
Lolalytics has been bad at keeping stats since the end of the season. Check League of graphs and Champion.gg. specifically look at his winrate in diamond+, awful.
Lhuhz5 votesBut I just checked League of Graphs and shows that Nasus isn't strong on low elos as you claim and that's the reason why I called you out.
He isn't strong neither on low or on high elo.
haaaaaaalp2 votesChampion.gg is worse than lolalytics. League of graphs is showing the same results as lolalytics
Chromatic Eagle1 votesSomeone links lola, they're told to use champ.gg. They link champ.gg, someone tells them to link lola.
Illabethe2 votes
Then on Bronze, Silver and Gold has around 49/50% winrate
I dont know why you think that he has a fantastic winrate on low elo cuz he doesn't.
They don't think he has a good win rate. They think he's a toxic encounter. There's a difference. Often Nasus as a top laner doesn't make any appearance anywhere else but..... Top. He just keeps split pushing. Meanwhile his 4 teammates are losing, and his split push becomes meaningless.
BUT..... when he IS in a fight he's one of the most broken champs in the game. 90% Slow and Attack speed slow? Yes Pls. 50% Reduced Q cooldown on Ult? I'll just bend over for you. And the 90% Slow is on a 6 second cooldown and lasts 5 seconds? Oh WOW...... YES PLS.
His kit is Toxic when it is in play. It's not like good skill and teamwork circumvents it. You literally have to have the right champ to counter him, or you need to engage a 5v1..... which defeats the purpose of "balance" and meanwhile the rest of his team is hopefully pushing something.
IG Ziko2 votesThey don't think he has a good win rate. They think he's a toxic encounter. There's a difference. Often Nasus as a top laner doesn't make any appearance anywhere else but..... Top. He just keeps split pushing. Meanwhile his 4 teammates are losing, and his split push becomes meaningless.
BUT..... when he IS in a fight he's one of the most broken champs in the game. 90% Slow and Attack speed slow? Yes Pls. 50% Reduced Q cooldown on Ult? I'll just bend over for you. And the 90% Slow is on a 6 second cooldown and lasts 5 seconds? Oh WOW...... YES PLS.
His kit is Toxic when it is in play. It's not like good skill and teamwork circumvents it. You literally have to have the right champ to counter him, or you need to engage a 5v1..... which defeats the purpose of "balance" and meanwhile the rest of his team is hopefully pushing something.
U know that one of the reasons Nasus is trash in high elo is that he is one of the worst team fighters in the game?
Gilgayu1 votesHe is bad for iron because people can't even last hit properly, they probably use q to hit full hp minions, because... why not...
Saevum8 votesHe also is gonna take towers faster. Which is a problem with a broken bounty system.
Illabethe6 votesI complained about it when it went to PBE. Aparrently it needs to go through to Live too, because people loved it..... SOOOOOO Much.
Never mind that Nasus can Jungle...... and get his very first clear will give him 72+ Stacks (many camps also have small monsters, but there are 1 Krugs that register, 1 Raptor, Red, Blue, 2 Scuttle, Wolf, Gromp, Blue..... That's up to 9 Large Monsters in the very first clear. That's + 108 stacks in HIS VERY FIRST CLEAR (which is about 5:40). That's 108 stacks in HALF the time he currently gets them, AND they are GUARANTEED Last hits (no minions to steal from you)
He may not be the strongest ganker, but I guarantee this buff is going to bring him into jungle, and he's going to probably just get 
and Wither the crap out of laners and abuse the free stacks.
He's going to Jungle, and have some 900+ stacks a game, wearing Mobis while people can't escape his Wither.
In other words:
pick rate will spike
pick rate will fall (sorry but the extra stacks will make the duel favor Nasus, not Illaoi)
Daddy Ants4 votesI complained about it when it went to PBE. Aparrently it needs to go through to Live too, because people loved it..... SOOOOOO Much.
Never mind that Nasus can Jungle...... and get his very first clear will give him 72+ Stacks (many camps also have small monsters, but there are 1 Krugs that register, 1 Raptor, Red, Blue, 2 Scuttle, Wolf, Gromp, Blue..... That's up to 9 Large Monsters in the very first clear. That's + 108 stacks in HIS VERY FIRST CLEAR (which is about 5:40). That's 108 stacks in HALF the time he currently gets them, AND they are GUARANTEED Last hits (no minions to steal from you)
He may not be the strongest ganker, but I guarantee this buff is going to bring him into jungle, and he's going to probably just get
He's going to Jungle, and have some 900+ stacks a game, wearing Mobis while people can't escape his Wither.
In other words:
1 full clear with 1 scuttle crab netted me 126 stacks in the Practice tool.
That's with me missing like 1-2 baby minions on the krug camp.
So if I wouldn't of missed them, that's 132 stacks.
Dragon, Baron, Rift also give him 12.
Plus you'll see a lot of cannon taxing from Jungle Nasus.
Moonscourge5 votesFully agree. However, at least he will be ever so slightly better even in higher elo IF he gets ahead. Maybe it's enough to allow him to finish the game a couple minutes earlier through pushing that advantage.
Wild Geese3 votesWhatever, I shouldn't had brought "winrate" into this. I'm editing the OP to not mention winrate because I can't be bothered going over flawed stats sites. The observation is Nasus is strong in low elo, I believe this to be correct.
Tennousu7 votes"Strong" in low elo. You "BELIEVE" this to be correct. Immediately decides that every single stat site that shows he's not is flawed since it goes against your argument.
Illabethe3 votes"Strong" in low elo. You "BELIEVE" this to be correct. Immediately decides that every single stat site that shows he's not is flawed since it goes against your argument.
That's like trying to argue a 47% Yasuo or 46% Akali is "Weak" Their problem isn't their win rates. It's their toxic engagements. 1 Champion doesn't win games (just had a Diana go 22/2 vs my team. She didn't win). And Nasus has one of the most toxic kits in the game.
Nea1042 votesExactly. That will end up in even more annoying games in low elo, and even more new players quitting after a few weeks.
Of course it's not Nasus alone the problem. But this company keeps adding unfun stuff to its own game, starting with the perma instabursts.
Meritas2 votesOnly high-elo players can lasthit cannon minions though.
LordGeovanni2 votesIf you play in low elo people are very good at farming its not like its season2-3 where people have 50 at 20 mins 140 at 120 is easy and even high elo streamers hover around there or have people who hover around there every game you only really get more by stealing other lanes farm and starving that laner. What low elo does wrong is not push or contest any objectives because every youtuber and streamer tells them just sit back and farm and you will be alright and thats what they do and ignore the enemy pushing towers securing dragons and barons you just have to hope that you luck into the team of not total btches more than you get on the team of total btches.
3TWarrior2 votesthere was a video of jungle nasus making a return..it was not right with like 600 bonus damage at 15 minutes
DUDE BRO2 votesCan we not forget that Every jungle camp contains a large monster?
There have already been PBE videos of people getting insane stacks while jungling, waaay higher than a good day in a lane.
Satakieli2 votesHad a game against Nasus today. I was building fairly tanky, but in min 11 he just popped an R and killed me with 2 Qs and an auto.... I'm talking about a 0/1 Nasus against me, a 2/0 toplaner.
@min 18 he got caught 1vs4, oneshot our ADC and Jg and got out with 80% HP or so, while our mid and supp were running for their lives.
I've seen Nasus players go 1vs1000 at lev 16-18 or in late game, but NOT @18.
Wild Geese2 votesI was wrong, even in bronze this buff is useless half the time. Nasus needs cc on his team and no cc on the enemy team to even hope to win.
Just a terrible buff. Punishes bad team comps only. Nasus still blows.
dj dragata2 votesIm sad because nasus will be banned now and i want him to be the under dog. (pun intended)
Neko Siren2 votesThe problem I have with Nasus is he has no trade off for this increase in damage. He may need defensive items granted, but his ult makes him so naturally tanky along with the lifesteal. Where is the trade off Riot?
ValiantKiller1 votes
was the problem at low elo not or 
you won't know better
Lhuhz1 votesBecause Nasus stats on low elo are average/bad maybe ?
Anchorit Wracaj1 votesOnly high elo players can last hit cannons.. He is at 44.9% WR in Diamond. This is the reason riot doesn't give a fk about boards. Stop complaining about every sh1t just to complain and think ure doing good with trolling Riot. Focus on fixing the keystones and this damage creep in game rather. Nasus will remain trollpick.
Bears Dont Care1 votesOh no, an easily kiteanle champ is approaching me!
ZaneShadow1 votesSo Riots legit logic with this is “low elo players miss more cs, so it won’t be as strong for them”.
... I wish that didn’t actually make sense. I think it’s a good change.
Carteeeer1 votesriots gone off the deep end
