I'll Frost Arrow them IRL.
Seriously,no one asks me why i pick ashe when i have 16/2,the moment you get 0/1 , four of your team mates reveal themselves as pro league coaches and try to teach you how to play the damn game
Jamaree22 votesWelcome to video games, where people will make fun of anything not top tier or meta, until you kick their teeth in.
Harden Stepback17 votesashe is underrated. people are just sheep.
Athenes Lulu5 votesPeople are just sheep.
Just enjoy the game on your own.
woodvsmurph5 votesBut why didn't you build death cap and rageblade... to amp the ap damage scaling of your ult? Or sunfire cape to get the "fire & ice" synergy going? You are clearly a boosted challenger lol.
Yeah... people dumb enough to say stuff like what I just wrote above and actually believe it... they couldn't even understand logic if you spell it out in simple baby-step detail. Just mute them and move on. I still don't get how any of such players get boosted above bronze 5... but... matchmaking op.
Attticus Finch5 votesToo bad. Ashe is shit atm and you're actively hurting your team's chances of winning by picking her. If you went 16/2 on Ashe that just means you would have gotten 32/2 on Kaisa or Lucian.
Don't play a team game if you can't handle criticism.
Ayzev12 votes[{quoted}](name=Attticus Finch,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=uEyAxp6J,comment-id=0007,timestamp=2018-06-07T19:42:26.075+0000)
criticism.
Because "don't pick X" is very constructive and helpful and whatnot.
She has around a 49.5% to 50% win rate. That is very far from "hurting your team".
HàrrowR3 votesEven if she was the the lowest tier adc possible its a normal game,its also a VIDEO GAME,can people just try and have fun,i dont ask my mid laner why didnt he pick this or that,jesus,im literally quitting adcs after maining them since s1,just too many people like you that cant cope with losing,having 0/6 and flaming me for losing your lane cause i didnt pick Kai Sa
mlm olo mlm3 votesWhy do you pick Ashe? She is so weak right now.
Austin Covello1 votesAccording to na.op.gg, 
and 
are all weaker.
mlm olo mlm1 votes[{quoted}](name=Austin Covello,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=uEyAxp6J,comment-id=00060001,timestamp=2018-06-08T03:48:40.672+0000)
According to na.op.gg,
How about picking the strongest champs? Sounds like a good plan to me.
Flashes1 votesHow about having fun or playing who you're good at?
Austin Covello1 votesThis. If you aren't good at Ez and Kai'Sa but you're good at a mid-tier champ, and play the former, you'll probably do more harm than good, anyway.
mlm olo mlm1 votesHow about having fun or playing who you're good at?
Practice helps. I have fun while trying to win. YMMV
Austin Covello3 votesI just carried a game with Ashe. There was a 
and a 
on it. We saw to it that didn't get one. single. kill. My lady love and I do things 
could never do. I was worried about her with this patch, but she's better than she's been in some time.
Here's just how weak Ashe isn't.
Having said that, I wouldn't mind if her E revealed stealthed units and cammo'd champions at the third rank. It would give her some strategic diversity and make her viable as a support flex-pick, which is what she was supposed to be originally in addition to an ADC.
EDIT: But you know what? That's okay. Keep thinking Ashe is weak. It's always more satisfying when your prey thinks you're helpless.
Battalion3 votesFunny how all the negative comments so far are from Bronze & Silver while Gold+ players are telling them to follow their dreams and be the best damn Ashe they can be. Wonder if attitude has something to do with ability.
Not to say that there aren't Unranked-Silver players putting in positive comments, but that the negative comments are all from the lower 60% .
Tesladin2 voteshaha
Chembaron Yamada2 votesGood thing I am not your team mate: Why do you pick Ashe? She is so weak right now! :O
Austin Covello1 votesSee above post.
sardonisms1 votesIDK, I was told when I picked the game up that Ashe has never been top tier, but she's always been solid. I just hated her at first because my old laptop is so bad I could literally not orb-walk due to input lag, and she needs to orb-walk to be successful. I haven't played her since, but I can tell you a good Ashe will wreck my best ADCs. (Again, I'm new, but whatever man, whatever.) And to paraphrase the advice I've gotten from MANY sources: the off-meta champ you're comfortable with is better than the OP champ of the week you've never played.
SanKakU1 votesThey removed her 'orb-walk' years ago in her rework and AFAIK the closest thing there are to real Warcraft 3 orbs in this game are the Unique Passives.
Shazzbot691 votesThis is why I prefer Dota 2. People don't bitch about meta there.
Madsin251 votesAshe can be very fun to play.
Not sure how the crit changes affected her but her kite potential mid-late is extremely good.
SociopathFriend1 votesI played Ashe support not too long ago. You can have some MASSIVE impact in lane with the W harass, E vision into the enemy jungle, not to mention the Ults if you're effective with them.
Mighty Mortein1 votesUtility ADCs > all for me. People like Ashe, Varus and Sivir are my favourites. They still provide something for the team even if a bit behind.
Flashes1 votesK a Y l e
Jackom11 votesFellow Ashe lover here, how do you build her after the item changes? Surely she's been affected by them, but i'm not sure how much. What item do you like to build first? Did you somewhat change the way you play her?
Seriously interested, She's one of the adcs I like most.
Austin Covello2 votesI do either 
/
or 
/ / , still. But I've also experimented with rushing BORK into two Zeal crits, too with some success. If you're feeling a bit cheese you can swap out for 
and go full speed goddess. You'd think that 
would be good on her, but it doesn't seem to be that great. But then, I was using Lethal Tempo at the time. I've since switched to PTA, so maybe I should try revisiting it.
HàrrowR1 votesI didnt try building the new crit items on her as my first items,i felt like the build path and the prices are now just absurd when you can get similar results going the other way around. Also i realized that i should start playing the game the way i felt best,not the way my teammates or mobafire tells me to do. One of the biggest downsides for any ADC in my eyes is the pure shit feeling of being the squishiest on your team,getting oneshoted often or just chunked for 50% hp by a poke spell.
Thats why i loved the Korean Lucian 
, Korean Ashe is similar
Now they changed BC since then quite a lot,it used to give more dmg and arpen and less hp,but its still a viable item now,it costs 700 less than an IE and only 100 more than the zeals while having much better build path.
So i've been going on her and then just crit,its a solid build,your Q gives 5 stacks of BC on the target in ONE shot,there's no one that can stack BC faster than her,you're gonna have easier time winning fights early because of lifesteal and more hp,the bonus MS coupled with your slow is amazing,if someone jumps on you you even have your botrk slow,and even though LDR is now good again,the difference between them is only 10% armorpen that works only for you,going Black Cleaver + PTA and you can make the enemy weaker for everyone on your team,not just you.
Personally its all about playstyle,if you want to trade some damage for some hp try this out,it maybe wont do the damage that IE Runan would,but it will come close,while being able to apply that damage more freely,not worrying about every spell one shotting you
Pika Fox1 votesGG adc died once open mid.
Meanwhile the support got a double kill....